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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    One really great book which will cause you you think about this issue is 11/22/63 by Stephen King. Yes - King is the well known writer famous for vampires and all sorts of horror but this book is about the Kennedy assassination and someone who can time travel who tries to prevent it. It is the best book King has written over the last twenty years and will really cause you to question the entire Hitler assumption.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    History is written by the victors.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    In all likelihood, yes.

    If you were going to kill Hitler at all, it'd have to very early in his career. Frankly, even then, it's still entirely possible that he might have become a martyr, or that the Nazis simply would have found someone else to spread their message.

    I mean... Honestly, the idea of assassinating a political leader to "silence" their ideas is kind of bunk in general. If you want to discredit a certain ideology, there are simply better ways to do it.
    You don't thinka psychopath in charge of a country should be assassinated?

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    It's a high cost political strategy that establishes a very bad precedent in international relations. Not absolutely the wrong thing to do, but . . . expensive in terms of the traditional currencies of power and credibility.
    Kennedy tried to assassinate Castro

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    That is a philosophical question that is very difficult to answer, because it gets into many "what ifs", which we can't know, with certainty, the answers to.
    That being said, are assassinations okay? Yeah, but not for the reasons you may think, and not due a question of moral judgements. Reality is what it is, history happens, and just because one bad guy may have been taken out prematurely, it doesn't mean that everything would have been okay. That isn't how it works.
    We assassinated UBL and isn't the drone campaign targeting Alquiada and now ISIS leaders assassination?

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    We assassinated UBL and isn't the drone campaign targeting Alquiada and now ISIS leaders assassination?
    No. Once war is declared then they are simply high ranking enemy combatants. There is no free pass granted to enemies simply because of their rank.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    You don't thinka psychopath in charge of a country should be assassinated?
    People have a love affair with the notion that if the head falls, the body will die, like in science fiction movies where every time the mother ship is destroyed all the other ships will be rendered inactive, kill the head vampire and the other vampires die or turn back to human, blow up the Death Star and the Empire crumbles, kill the Witch and Oz is saved. And it's almost certainly the same mentality that concludes that if you assassinate a head of state then his entire command structure, line of succession and ideology all go with him. Has it actually happened this way in history? I'm sure, but the message you should have gotten from this thread is that a command structure, line of succession and ideology almost always prop up that head of state, and the murder of that leader usually a)solves nothing, b)creates a power vacuum resulting in more chaos, or c)creates a martyr, which of all the outcomes can potentially be the worst possible thing for your cause. Are you so certain you would want Obama...I'm sorry, I mean Hitler...to be martyred?

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    The only time assassination would be reasonable would be if the State was the assassin. In my opinion the State has the power and right to do something like that. In my opinion there can be no such thing as so-called 'State Terror'. The State needs to do what it must to maintain order and peace.

    I do think that assassination is very drastic though. Impeachment should be enough to remove a bad or unpopular leader.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by spangledbanner View Post
    The only time assassination would be reasonable would be if the State was the assassin. In my opinion the State has the power and right to do something like that. In my opinion there can be no such thing as so-called 'State Terror'. The State needs to do what it must to maintain order and peace.

    I do think that assassination is very drastic though. Impeachment should be enough to remove a bad or unpopular leader.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    No. Once war is declared then they are simply high ranking enemy combatants. There is no free pass granted to enemies simply because of their rank.
    I wish that was true...

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