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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Looking at the popularity of it, I don't think these thoughts were Hitler's alone. Again, that's just my opinion.
    Hitler has the charisma and the evil to make the worst of Germany bubble to the surfaces. IMO if he had been stopped in his rise to power we would have had a different and better world

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm not opposed to assassination in some cases, but one of the problems with it is that when there is an established power structure, the next bozo just steps into the vacated place... and in many cases he may be as bad or worse.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Hitler has the charisma and the evil to make the worst of Germany bubble to the surfaces. IMO if he had been stopped in his rise to power we would have had a different and better world
    I know what you're trying to do here - in your claim Obama is another Hitler it might justify taking him out now in his rise to power, that's it right?
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    From what I understand it might have made sense to eliminate him before he was able to instigate WWII, but once the war started it was probably best to let him stay in charge since strategically he was Germany's own worst enemy.

    Something I'm not entirely clear on myself is, how responsible is Hitler personally for the events that led to WWII and the Holocaust? Did he simply ride a tidal wave of historical events? Or did he shape the thoughts of the time so specifically that those events never would have happened had he not lived?
    This is a good question, and one that isn't 100% answered to this day.

    But going by what I've read, I think the evil in his cabinet was at the very least equal, and quite likely much worse than Hitler himself. And they certainly had better ability to make it happen -- as you say, in many ways Hitler was his own worst enemy.

    Hitler was rather crap at the business of running Germany, and not much a general either. He was disorganized and a bit mad and really, it seems as though his cabinet spent more time going around him than through him.

    No doubt Hitler hated the Jews and various other types of people and was more than happy to see a plan to have them killed, but whether he even had a big hand in designing the Final Solution is still an open question. We do know with fair certainty that he didn't go into it with any kind of genocidal plan. And to all appearances, it wasn't initially put together as a plan at all -- it sort of slowly came together, piece by piece.

    I think Hitler was probably too incompetent to be the main source of deed behind Nazi Germany. I think the likes of say, Goebbels or Himmler is a much more likely main force. It's a bit of a shame that the memorability of Hitler has overshadowed that, and that few people know their names and the kinds of things they did.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I know what you're trying to do here - in your claim Obama is another Hitler it might justify taking him out now in his rise to power, that's it right?
    Free up some space in your mailbox, AW

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I know what you're trying to do here - in your claim Obama is another Hitler it might justify taking him out now in his rise to power, that's it right?
    So transparent. And a new thread comparing Obama to Chavez after the other one got sent downstairs....
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    saddam*cough*iraq*cough

    Yeah. Saddam was bad, but his boys would likely have been worse.

    And yeah, our regime change there isn't working out as well as hoped. There's just a whole lotta Stupid to go around in that region, and damn little Live and Let Live.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    So transparent. And a new thread comparing Obama to Chavez after the other one got sent downstairs....
    Oh, so this is a pattern then, is it? My tarot cards are telling me this thread is going to be closed for review before the day is done.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Free up some space in your mailbox, AW
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Absolutely. Before employing assassination as a tool, you've got to know what the result will be and whether it will help or harm overall. Only way to justify it.
    I have literally nothing to add to this. You've said it all.

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