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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Whatever. The fact of the matter is that it didn't accomplish a whole lot in either instance.

    They were "moral" victories, useful for restoring domestic morale and international prestige more than anything else.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    There was a strong power structure in place in Iraq and after a brief internal struggle there would be a new leader of it chastened by what we did to Saddam. He would not shoot at our planes enforcing the no fly zone and would not gas Kurds.
    That is dangerously short-sighted and optimistic. It's that sort of myopic thought process that explains why assassinations tend to end badly.

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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    From what Iread of both acts a declaration of war is well defined while authorization of military force is not. It seems to me that targeting the leader of the enemy in the second scenario is assassination but it is impossible to say for sure. If Alquiada managed to kill Obama would that IYO be assassination or an act of war?
    Both, since Obama is both the leader of a nation and the commander in chief of its military forces. Which head did they chop off?
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'm not opposed to assassination in some cases, but one of the problems with it is that when there is an established power structure, the next bozo just steps into the vacated place... and in many cases he may be as bad or worse.
    But he won't be the most EFFECTIVE one because that's the one you killed. Keep it up and you'll get to third and fourth string jackasses that should be easier to deal with.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    From what I understand it might have made sense to eliminate him before he was able to instigate WWII, but once the war started it was probably best to let him stay in charge since strategically he was Germany's own worst enemy.

    Something I'm not entirely clear on myself is, how responsible is Hitler personally for the events that led to WWII and the Holocaust? Did he simply ride a tidal wave of historical events? Or did he shape the thoughts of the time so specifically that those events never would have happened had he not lived?
    It was his charisma and his embracing the nascent science of persuasion (the Big Lie being one of his favorites. He is quoted saying the Reich would never have been possible without the advancements in propaganda learned from the Soviets.) that led to the acceptance of the Reich.

    Maybe someone else could have been figurehead, maybe not.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah. Must be all that damn Sand.... makes people crazy. "Dammit, I've got sand in my arse again! That's it! I'm going to kill EVERYONE!"
    Seems like the harsher an environment a culture develops in the harsher that culture.

    Island cultures for example are much more aggressive the closer to the mainland they are because those areas tend to have higher population density and competition for resources. Move farther out and the people get more peaceful (aside from places far from all others like Easter island and new Zealand)
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Looking at the popularity of it, I don't think these thoughts were Hitler's alone. Again, that's just my opinion.
    I have to agree with that. We have more and more info coming out that not just the people of Germany, but the American people were OK with the persecution of Jews.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yes... assassinations are ok in certain circumstances....... however, they are never ok until actions are taken that makes it deserved.

    contingency plans should also be made to deal with the consequences.

    as for my personal opinion... the minute Hitlers army invaded his first country, he was open for assassination
    if the young men and women in military uniforms are subjected to being legally killed by opposing nations, their leader is open to it as well.

    as with any other martial matter, assassination can be tactical or strategic
    sometimes, the main man can be iced.. other times, maybe taking out a top minion would work better to change the tune of El Supremo.
    in any event, the notion that leaders are exempt from being legally killed is asinine.... they are leaders... upper management.... not gods.
    I've always thought that leading men to a war of aggression should carry a summary death sentence. Every leader, every military commander. To be carried out by any human without sanction.

    Make it clear that humanity rejects that behavior.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    One thing that I think many people don't realize about Hitler, is that he was into some really strange mystical practices and beliefs, and he literally lost his mind, likely as a result of some of the **** that he was into. He probably believed that he had been ordained by God to do the things he was doing. He was far beyond Christianity by that point, and although many people like to claim that he was Christian, thus denigrate Christianity by associating Hitler with it, that is not what was actually happening at the time. He was likely much crazier than most of us understand, but he was so powerful and brutal, that few dared defy him by that point, as he'd gladly have them killed as well. He was probably a man of great potential, who went terribly terribly wrong.
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    Re: Is assasination ever called for

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    But he won't be the most EFFECTIVE one because that's the one you killed. Keep it up and you'll get to third and fourth string jackasses that should be easier to deal with.
    or....ya smoke #2,3 and 4....let Numero Uno know, on the sly, he might want to get on the right track if he wishes to keep consuming oxygen.

    some dudes just need to be smoked though...Saddam, Bin Laden... and a whole host of asshats that are still breathing
    smoking Saddam( yes i know he wasn't assassinated) and his boys wasn't the wrong call in Iraq... dismantling their army and command structure was the wrong call

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