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    Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Public opinion.

    We've all heard about Bill Cosby and how he's being dropped from guest appearances,and shows left and right. Then theres' a petition to get the Duggars( 19 kids and counting) off the air,bc in a separate interview they shared that they were pro choice,and believed marriage should be between one man,and one woman. However they never expressed these views on their show. I have no doubt that if enough people yell loud enough, the show would be pulled.

    Where do we draw the line. Do we take away people's livelihood based on allegations and public opinion, or do we wait for a conviction?

    Do we take a non dysfunctional family off the air bc someone asks their opinion and they tell them their beliefs(off air)?Like it or not, people still hold those views. What happened to "live and let live" (they aren't stopping ppl from marrying or getting abortions) or "you're entitled to your opinion"?

    Do you think the weight of public opinion carries more weight than it should?
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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    I think organizations should always listen to the public, but that they should only act on what the public says if the public's arguments are compelling. I don't think organizations should act on public opinion just because it is loud or threatens to take business away. If organizations act according to the latter principle, then they risk having their strings pulled by people who don't know what they're talking about which is a problem for a multitude of reasons.

    Of course, what makes an argument "compelling" is subjective in itself and that would have to be judged on an argument-to-argument basis. For the Cosby situation in particular, if I were the head of a network working with him, I would suspend our relationship pending an investigation for the time being, but I wouldn't completely sever it without all information.

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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    From a moral/ethics perspective, yes. Someone should be able to privately hold an opinion, and not get admonished for it. I don't really care very much if you're absolutely backwards, as long as you or others are not actually acting upon that backwardsness.

    From the tv networks perspectives, no. A tv network has every reason to pull someone/thing from air if they get too much negative public opinion. TV absolutely relies on public opinion, so if they think you're not going to be received well, or they're bringing down the networks image, then the TV network can and will cut you. It's cutthroat but pretty fair, the main problem with that is consistency of application when you have such a fickle public and often biased media/TV hierarchies.
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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Public opinion.

    We've all heard about Bill Cosby and how he's being dropped from guest appearances,and shows left and right. Then theres' a petition to get the Duggars( 19 kids and counting) off the air,bc in a separate interview they shared that they were pro choice,and believed marriage should be between one man,and one woman. However they never expressed these views on their show. I have no doubt that if enough people yell loud enough, the show would be pulled.

    Where do we draw the line. Do we take away people's livelihood based on allegations and public opinion, or do we wait for a conviction?

    Do we take a non dysfunctional family off the air bc someone asks their opinion and they tell them their beliefs(off air)?Like it or not, people still hold those views. What happened to "live and let live" (they aren't stopping ppl from marrying or getting abortions) or "you're entitled to your opinion"?

    Do you think the weight of public opinion carries more weight than it should?
    "We" are not taking away any one's livelihood. "We" do have every right to express our displeasure with what people might say or do, but whether their employers listen is up to them.

    And it is important to note that when you have a job on TV or the media, presentation and public opinion are a big part of how you keep those jobs. If people do not want to see you do whatever it is you do, then you probably are not long going to have a job on TV.
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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    "Other."

    The problem comes down to individual determination of an issue vs. mob mentality. We have seen that play out in all the worst ways. That said the public opinion carries a great deal of weight and that is not always a bad thing, it comes down to the subject at hand. The issue I can see already with line in the sand thinking is encroachment on civil liberties.
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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    If I'm a T.V. corporation I can give a **** if you're Jesus, if people don't like you you're not getting aired.

    I got $$$$ to make.

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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    If I'm a T.V. corporation I can give a **** if you're Jesus, if people don't like you you're not getting aired.

    I got $$$$ to make.

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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    In the world you seem to be referring to (the world of TV or entertainment), that's pretty much what is going to determine your future. If you're going to bring in money, then your job will likely be pretty secure. If you are a liability, then that isn't the case. When people are in the public eye, you have to be very judicious, or your job will be on the line. It may not seem fair, but it's the reality of living in that world.
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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    I voted "No", I don't think public opinion carries to much weight in regards to making big decisions.

    Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, but that doesn't mean that everyone else has to respect every opinion, or that any given opinion necessarily has to be free of consequences.

    You're talking pretty much exclusively about business decisions here, and particularly about business owners or leaders making business decisions which they believe will maximize their business's profitability. There's no "right" or "wrong" there. The owners (or leaders with a fiduciary obligation to the owners) of a particular piece of property (a business in this case) are free to make whatever decision they want in respect to their property so long as it breaks no laws.

    There's an old saying that "the squeaky wheel gets the grease".

    If folks support Bill Cosby or the Duggars then they need to make their position heard, loud and clear. If they're loud enough, and clear enough, and numerous enough then business will hear them.

    Look at the situation with Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty.

    Robertson made comments that were met with widespread public disapproval so A&E suspended the program.

    But Robertson supporters demonstrated equally widespread support for Robertson, his comments, and his right to make them.

    A&E reinstated Duck Dynasty.

    A business is going to look at where its bread is buttered and make decisions accordingly.
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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Public opinion.

    We've all heard about Bill Cosby and how he's being dropped from guest appearances,and shows left and right. Then theres' a petition to get the Duggars( 19 kids and counting) off the air,bc in a separate interview they shared that they were pro choice,and believed marriage should be between one man,and one woman. However they never expressed these views on their show. I have no doubt that if enough people yell loud enough, the show would be pulled.

    Where do we draw the line. Do we take away people's livelihood based on allegations and public opinion, or do we wait for a conviction?

    Do we take a non dysfunctional family off the air bc someone asks their opinion and they tell them their beliefs(off air)?Like it or not, people still hold those views. What happened to "live and let live" (they aren't stopping ppl from marrying or getting abortions) or "you're entitled to your opinion"?

    Do you think the weight of public opinion carries more weight than it should?
    I think the question is less "are they giving too much weight to public opinion", and more "are they giving too much weight to perpetually offended but exceedingly loud activists versus public opinion"


    This in particular is just another case of public bullying to attempt to clear out undesired thought. Seriously, did anyone who watches the show not know that the Duggars were conservative Christians? But there is a serious movement in this country to seek out and punish un-PC speech, and so if they say what they believe, they must be hounded out of the public square.

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