View Poll Results: Does public opinion carry to much weight in regards to making big decisions?

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Thread: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Public opinion.

    We've all heard about Bill Cosby and how he's being dropped from guest appearances,and shows left and right. Then theres' a petition to get the Duggars( 19 kids and counting) off the air,bc in a separate interview they shared that they were pro choice,and believed marriage should be between one man,and one woman. However they never expressed these views on their show. I have no doubt that if enough people yell loud enough, the show would be pulled.

    Where do we draw the line. Do we take away people's livelihood based on allegations and public opinion, or do we wait for a conviction?

    Do we take a non dysfunctional family off the air bc someone asks their opinion and they tell them their beliefs(off air)?Like it or not, people still hold those views. What happened to "live and let live" (they aren't stopping ppl from marrying or getting abortions) or "you're entitled to your opinion"?

    Do you think the weight of public opinion carries more weight than it should?
    "We" aren't doing anything. Companies are making decisions, motivated by profit, to not have certain people on their payroll or in their interview room, because it could hurt their bottom line. They want to please their audience.

    I mean, what's the alternative? Force them to hire people? For what? No one is entitled to a gig.

    As far as Cosby, I guess I wish the American public were a bit more measured in its response and didn't tend to whip itself into a frenzy before evidence is actually in. God, I wish we had this kind of public outcry over things that are of national concern.

    As for the Duggars, I am honestly shocked that anyone would be surprised that they're anti-abortion. I mean, duh. They don't even believe in birth control. And as far as that goes, it's just the same usual stuff that's always happens, where ideas die over time through social change and disapproval. It's just taking a more officious form these days. Again, they're not entitled to a show.

    My take? Eh, they can do what they want.

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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Public opinion.

    We've all heard about Bill Cosby and how he's being dropped from guest appearances,and shows left and right. Then theres' a petition to get the Duggars( 19 kids and counting) off the air,bc in a separate interview they shared that they were pro choice,and believed marriage should be between one man,and one woman. However they never expressed these views on their show. I have no doubt that if enough people yell loud enough, the show would be pulled.

    Where do we draw the line. Do we take away people's livelihood based on allegations and public opinion, or do we wait for a conviction?

    Do we take a non dysfunctional family off the air bc someone asks their opinion and they tell them their beliefs(off air)?Like it or not, people still hold those views. What happened to "live and let live" (they aren't stopping ppl from marrying or getting abortions) or "you're entitled to your opinion"?

    Do you think the weight of public opinion carries more weight than it should?
    I understand where you're coming from but the fact of the matter is that waiting for facts to be made public in matters that really don't involve you anyway is difficult for most people. As we know, as Americans we have an obligation to remove difficulty from everyone's lives so, to that end, it really is best that we hyperventilate, freak out and start ****ing **** up as soon as is practically possible.

    That goes double for anything that involves common religious principles and triple if it involves white on black violence.

    Now, with specific regard to Bill Cosby: Since he's black and accused of rape all good Americans should back off just a little. However, he's not a particularly vocal social activist so now you need to push ahead a little. You also have to take into account the basic finances of sexual assault. If you're poor you pretty much have to go back for seconds before it's "really" assault but as you get more wealthy the bar gets lowered. By the time you get to Bill Cosby levels you really should consider wearing blinders like they put on horses.

    Finally, in America we all have a right to a speedy trial and what's faster than Twitter and Facebook? Isn't a jury of millions better than a jury of 12?

    Social media is like a shark tank. The first second there is an indication of blood in the water the feeding frenzy commences. It's not exactly the way I pictured America in the 21st century but it's what I got.

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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Sure, public opinion is important. But he who holds the purse strings should have the final say.
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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Public opinion.

    We've all heard about Bill Cosby and how he's being dropped from guest appearances,and shows left and right. Then theres' a petition to get the Duggars( 19 kids and counting) off the air,bc in a separate interview they shared that they were pro choice,and believed marriage should be between one man,and one woman. However they never expressed these views on their show. I have no doubt that if enough people yell loud enough, the show would be pulled.

    Where do we draw the line. Do we take away people's livelihood based on allegations and public opinion, or do we wait for a conviction?

    Do we take a non dysfunctional family off the air bc someone asks their opinion and they tell them their beliefs(off air)?Like it or not, people still hold those views. What happened to "live and let live" (they aren't stopping ppl from marrying or getting abortions) or "you're entitled to your opinion"?

    Do you think the weight of public opinion carries more weight than it should?
    I think it does.The only thing that should determined whether or not a show is dropped,interview canceled or what ever else is a drop in the audience not because some busybodies with nothing else better to do that to try to cancel a show they don't watch.

    I think My Pussy is a Clown car(19kids and counting) is one of the stupidest shows in the world. From what I heard these people pop out kids and then pawn them off on their older kids to take care of.` I think TLC should actually show shows that have to do with learning not these stupid ass 'reality shows'.But the only way TLC should get rid of them is if their brain dead audience stops watching them.
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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Where do we draw the line. Do we take away people's livelihood based on allegations and public opinion, or do we wait for a conviction?
    I'm quite sure that this has already been said, but in a capitalist system public opinion is critically important. With poor public opinion, advertisers will drop and the company will lose money. So, really all we are talking about is the networks making a financially prudent decision to protect their livelihood.

    My question is, whose livelihood is more important- the network or the cast of one of their programs?

    If I'm a financially aware executive, I'd have no qualms cutting any program that has the potential to cost me more money than it's making me.

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Do we take a non dysfunctional family off the air bc someone asks their opinion and they tell them their beliefs(off air)?Like it or not, people still hold those views. What happened to "live and let live" (they aren't stopping ppl from marrying or getting abortions) or "you're entitled to your opinion"?
    Live and let live applies to government intervention and the stuff individuals do in their private lives. Once someone enters the realm of public entertainment, all bets are off.

    That's just the free-market speaking there.

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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    Quote Originally Posted by herenow1 View Post
    Public opinion.

    We've all heard about Bill Cosby and how he's being dropped from guest appearances,and shows left and right. Then theres' a petition to get the Duggars( 19 kids and counting) off the air,bc in a separate interview they shared that they were pro choice,and believed marriage should be between one man,and one woman. However they never expressed these views on their show. I have no doubt that if enough people yell loud enough, the show would be pulled.

    Where do we draw the line. Do we take away people's livelihood based on allegations and public opinion, or do we wait for a conviction?

    Do we take a non dysfunctional family off the air bc someone asks their opinion and they tell them their beliefs(off air)?Like it or not, people still hold those views. What happened to "live and let live" (they aren't stopping ppl from marrying or getting abortions) or "you're entitled to your opinion"?

    Do you think the weight of public opinion carries more weight than it should?
    the answer varies and is subjective. Theres no real right or wrong answer. And what you are talking about is business .. . business simply runs that way. Whats the alternative?

    also nobody took thier livelihood away its simply the nature of the beast. (tv/media/etc)

    i personally may not think its right based on the situation but thats about it.

    Why does a person like pat robertson have a tv show? millions and millions see him for the nut case bigot he is but he also has many many nutball people people that send money and watch his show
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    Re: Are corporations/companies/agencies/franchises giving too much power to "po"

    When your livelihood depends on public opinion, I don't think you have much of a case to argue that it's unfair when public opinion causes you to lose your livelihood.

    However, I do wish the media was better at seeing the difference between public opinion, and a small but loud minority.
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