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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    What does that have to do with comprehensive immigration reform?
    It's an example of the Reoublican House engaging in piecemeal immigration reform and of Harry pigeon-holing such legislation because he wants them to pass HIS comprehensive immigration reform.

    You know...just what we've been talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    OMG, making sense of you people is a drain on one's sanity! It will be many months before anyone will be able to register. I don't believe that we will deport five million people.
    You know, I could write exactly the same thing. I'm a bit baffled by the inability to make the connections.

    5 million people have suddenly been given a reprieve for three years. First, they have to register. How big a task will that be?

    Have you worked out how many tens of thousands of processing hours that will take to complete? If it took 10 minutes to process each person, it would take over 800,000 hours to process all those people. It would take over 1,800 people working on nothing but applications every work day for four months to process those applications. How is that going to happen?

    Then, three years later, what happens? They register again? They fade into the woodwork? They get deported? Got any thoughts on that?

    I believe they will never be deported. Not ever. Not under the Presidents plan. So it's reasonable to conclude they have been given permanent "temporary" status. And then there is the fact that far more than 5 million are going to suddenly quality.

    How you can avoid these connections and facts is rather remarkable.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    WTF! I thought that Rubio sponsored the House Bill...you are not making sense.
    Rubio is in the Senate. He initially sponsored the Senate bill, but when the people didnt like the amnesty part, and the House was going to change the bill significantly enough to upset democrats, Rubio backed out and favored a peicemeal approach instead.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    You know, I could write exactly the same thing. I'm a bit baffled by the inability to make the connections.

    5 million people have suddenly been given a reprieve for three years. First, they have to register. How big a task will that be?

    Have you worked out how many tens of thousands of processing hours that will take to complete? If it took 10 minutes to process each person, it would take over 800,000 hours to process all those people. It would take over 1,800 people working on nothing but applications every work day for four months to process those applications. How is that going to happen?

    Then, three years later, what happens? They register again? They fade into the woodwork? They get deported? Got any thoughts on that?

    I believe they will never be deported. Not ever. Not under the Presidents plan. So it's reasonable to conclude they have been given permanent "temporary" status. And then there is the fact that far more than 5 million are going to suddenly quality.

    How you can avoid these connections and facts is rather remarkable.
    It's not surprise that they have been granted clemency for 3 years either, falling after this President is out of office. He's skimming the benefit off the top, kicking the problem down the road, using a method he himself knows he legally lacks the authority to use, but doing it anyway because nobody has the stones to challenge him on it. Evintually it will be reversed, overturned or scaled back but in the mean time the effects will stand. Interesting that a president who suspends law at his own discretion refused to obey laws he disagrees with personally. I suspect we will see a lot more of this in the immediate future trickling down to common citizens. The example has been set by Wall Street and now the government. There is no reason to follow the law or even be subversive about it any more. We can do what we want as long as we can intimidate or buy off law enforcement. I see a war on the horizon where law enforcement is increasingly attacked for trying to do their jobs by those who simply disagree with the law that is being enforced. And in the end might will make right.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    It's an example of the Reoublican House engaging in piecemeal immigration reform and of Harry pigeon-holing such legislation because he wants them to pass HIS comprehensive immigration reform.

    You know...just what we've been talking about.


    What piecemeal immigration reform bills has the House passed?

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    You know, I could write exactly the same thing. I'm a bit baffled by the inability to make the connections.

    5 million people have suddenly been given a reprieve for three years. First, they have to register. How big a task will that be?

    Have you worked out how many tens of thousands of processing hours that will take to complete? If it took 10 minutes to process each person, it would take over 800,000 hours to process all those people. It would take over 1,800 people working on nothing but applications every work day for four months to process those applications. How is that going to happen?

    Then, three years later, what happens? They register again? They fade into the woodwork? They get deported? Got any thoughts on that?

    I believe they will never be deported. Not ever. Not under the Presidents plan. So it's reasonable to conclude they have been given permanent "temporary" status. And then there is the fact that far more than 5 million are going to suddenly quality.

    How you can avoid these connections and facts is rather remarkable.


    What do you think, that they are all going to register at one place? Geez!

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Rubio is in the Senate. He initially sponsored the Senate bill, but when the people didnt like the amnesty part, and the House was going to change the bill significantly enough to upset democrats, Rubio backed out and favored a peicemeal approach instead.


    Right. Sorry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    What piecemeal immigration reform bills has the House passed?
    I gave you the link already.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I gave you the link already.


    Are you talking about the child migrant bills?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Are you talking about the child migrant bills?
    Yes. Do you want more?
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