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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I suspect nothing will please you.
    not true. All I need to see is a law which Obama supposedly broke with the immigration actions.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    No amnesty has been granted, permanent or otherwise. This will give the Republicans a chance to pass the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill which the House has been sitting on for a year and a half. If they don't do it, there won't be another Republican President in the White House for many, many years.
    This is not true. You claim the temporary period is three years. The only thing they have to do is fill out some paperwork to stay. So the question remains, will 10 million illegals be easier to throw out in three years? At what point is temporary become permanent?

    As far as the "do it or never get the White House" threat ProgLibs love to chant, the future is indeed impossible to claim with any certainty. The royal screwing the President has given the Black Communities and others will likely play a very large part in who is in the White House in the future, with, or without, rewarding failures from other countries who have come here illegally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    My understanding is that it was a bipartisan bill.
    Here's the problem with your understanding. The senate passed the bill, after which it's supposed to go to conference committee. Harry Reid never sent it to conference committee and the House never got a chance to look at it. Harry Reid is a terrible person and quite possibly the worst living American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Morning back atcha MMC...He didn't create any new programs! The House has been sitting on the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill for a year and a half..so no, not a lie or a lame excuse.
    Sure it was......as BO's excuse was he ran out of patience.

    Also what he failed to mention.....was Good Ole Harry Reid pulling back the Border security Provision of the Bill that passed in the Senate. That would be the so called and alleged comprehensive immigration reform.

    And the other part he failed to mention was the Bills that the House sent with the surge at the southern border that Harry Reid wouldn't let get past him, for Bo to use his Temp Pen.


    So yes it was a lame excuse.....no where in the Constitution does it say when the President is out of Patience he can go around the Constitution.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Fail.....You can do a complete background check on the web for practically nothing... They won't be able to do it that easily, but someone else will and they will be overcharged dramatically.

    Try again Juanita.

    At current staffing levels, USCIS issues about 1 million green cards per year. And when Obama enacted his first executive amnesty, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals in 2012, wait times for legal immigrants to get their visas tripled from under five months to over 15 months. Only about 1 million illegal immigrants were eligible to apply for DACA amnesty and only about 600,000 were given amnesty......snip~

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    Such detailed searches require a lot of time. For this reason completing the search requires a lot of time. It may take anywhere between 30 and 180 days to conduct and complete a search. The process involves many steps......snip~

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    It will cost the American People more money and time.....as well as BO's Team hiring more people. Which with Uncle Sequester.....how is that going to happen again? Oh, and with the Full Congress of Republicans.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What I was hoping for was exact language to show the law Obama had violated. you giving me broad sections of codes is hardly that.
    What you are hoping for is a shield to protect the Father of Lies.

    He voided the Constitution. And you are okay with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    No amnesty has been granted, permanent or otherwise. This will give the Republicans a chance to pass the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill which the House has been sitting on for a year and a half. If they don't do it, there won't be another Republican President in the White House for many, many years.
    Really? And if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.

    This amnesty is a nation killer. Combined with chain migration, a Ted Kennedy travesty, this will bring millions more third worlders to the US. If you pay taxes, if you buy things, if you earn under $100K per year, if you do not live in a gated community, you just got screwed. And you liked it.

    This was a direct attack on the US citizen on behalf of an invading enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Really? And if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.

    This amnesty is a nation killer. Combined with chain migration, a Ted Kennedy travesty, this will bring millions more third worlders to the US. If you pay taxes, if you buy things, if you earn under $100K per year, if you do not live in a gated community, you just got screwed. And you liked it.

    This was a direct attack on the US citizen on behalf of an invading enemy.
    You realize that the people affected are already here, right?
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    What you are hoping for is a shield to protect the Father of Lies.

    He voided the Constitution. And you are okay with that.
    I have never been okay with an expansion of executive power at the expense of the legislature - even though the legislature say back and spreads its limbs and put a big smile on its face when their own president was the participant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have never been okay with an expansion of executive power at the expense of the legislature - even though the legislature say back and spreads its limbs and put a big smile on its face when their own president was the participant.
    We can disagree on this. I see you differently. You support authoritarian statists when you agree with their goals. It is perfectly natural to side with the tyrant who wants what you want. Once we becomes unmoored from the Constitution, it simply becomes a matter of preference for which form of tyranny best suits us.

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