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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The Republican Congress, next year, will never pass that abomination the Democratic Senate sent to them last year. You can be sure of that.

    But what they DO send to Obama will be better and more effective because it'll START with border security and they'll go on from there.


    My understanding is that it was a bipartisan bill.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Well, perhaps if Boehner had brought the Senate's Immigration Bill to the floor for a vote, Reid would have brought some of Boehner's bills up as well. You think?
    There's nothing in the history of Reid's Senate that would lead any reasonable person to believe that.

    You seem to continue to forget, or at least not acknowledge, that fact that Reid's desk has been the final resting point for many a bi-partisan passed House bill. One might even reasonably conclude that it's one of the main reasons that this congress has been the least productive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    There's nothing in the history of Reid's Senate that would lead any reasonable person to believe that.

    You seem to continue to forget, or at least not acknowledge, that fact that Reid's desk has been the final resting point for many a bi-partisan passed House bill. One might even reasonably conclude that it's one of the main reasons that this congress has been the least productive.


    They passed the bipartisan Immigration Bill didn't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    They passed the bipartisan Immigration Bill didn't they?
    One bill of 100's that they didn't. One bill of 100's that are still sitting in Reid's desk. Many jobs related, and other dealing with the country's business.

    Of course, one could look at the number of bills from each of the houses, and pretty quickly see where the log jam is piled up at the Senate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    My understanding is that it was a bipartisan bill.
    So what? Doesn't mean it's a good thing.

    Look...Democrats like BIG bills, thousands of pages. Everything, including the kitchen sink, tossed in for good measure. Kind of like Obamacare.

    But the House Republicans...Boehner, to be specific...want to deal with "immigration reform" in a realistic, logical step-by-step manner. Secure the border first. Once that's done, then deal with the other issues like how to deal with the millions of illegal aliens in the country, how to deal with the employers who insist on breaking the law, guest workers, legal immigration process. If you try to shove all this stuff in one humongous bill, things don't work right.

    That Senate bill is 1200 pages. Add all the agency rules that come out of it and it'll be as big...and as useless...as Obamacare. But that's what the Democrats want and that's what Obama has been trying to force the House Republicans to pass. It's not going to work.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Well, perhaps if Boehner had brought the Senate's Immigration Bill to the floor for a vote, Reid would have brought some of Boehner's bills up as well. You think?
    No, he wouldn't.

    But I'm wondering why you condone extortion on the part of the Democrats? "Pass my bill...or you'll be sorry!"
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Fail.....You can do a complete background check on the web for practically nothing... They won't be able to do it that easily, but someone else will and they will be overcharged dramatically.
    You don't know much about federal background checks, do you. That online background check is nothing compared to what the feds do. I know. I got a clearance way back. They personally met with and talked to my parent, relatives, friends and did a whole lot of other things.

    In my case, it was worth it because they got years of service from me in return, but it wasn't cheap and it took them almost 6 months. On the other hand, I wouldn't put it past Obama to go the useless "online" route you suggest to save time and money. He'll get what he paid for, for sure.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    No amnesty has been granted, permanent or otherwise. This will give the Republicans a chance to pass the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill which the House has been sitting on for a year and a half. If they don't do it, there won't be another Republican President in the White House for many, many years.
    And what makes you think that? even ultra liberal TNR has admitted that the GOP can essentially abandon trying to appeal to latino voters and still win the white house.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What I was hoping for was exact language to show the law Obama had violated. you giving me broad sections of codes is hardly that.
    I suspect nothing will please you.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    My understanding is that it was a bipartisan bill.
    No, only 12 republicans voted for it. If it had bipartisan support at least a majority of both parties would have supported it.

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