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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Anyone interested in limited government has to limit the power given to states. I don't see how you can have unlimited power on one side and limited power on the other and not have enormous government pretty quick.


    Geez, I actually agree with you on this one.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    I believe that he said three years.
    Greetings, Juanita.

    Yet another problem for the next President to handle, since he'll be gone. Do you think it's reasonable to expect that he might begin to address the problem of decent paying jobs in his last two years - which he said he was focusing on like a laser since he became POTUS? The top 10 occupations in the US are currently paying less than $35,000 a year. That's a lot of people who have to be struggling on a daily basis. Now add in millions of illegals who will be competing with American workers for fewer and fewer jobs, and it will equal a huge mess, IMO.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    This Congress has refused to work with this President on most issues and, unfortunately, will continue to do so.
    The house sent over three hundred bills to the Senate which never made it to the floor. Please explain to me how that is an example of the house not working with the President. You are incorrect when you say the Congress has refused to work with the president unless you are accusing the Democrat controlled senate of not working with Obama.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That is what I'm thinking too. What are they going to use to proof their case? Why would you even risk coming forward in the first place? If you fail to prove your case you're going to be deported.


    I agree with you on the "risk" part. Many will be afraid to register for fear of the government having their names when deportations resume. Many will try to wait until Comprehensive Immigration Reform is eventually passed.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    It is well known that Obama doesn't do anything unless it is of some political advantage to him or to his Party. Given that, the question arises...what does he gain with this illegal immigration action? There have been some views expressed that Obama's aim is to provoke the Republicans into doing something that can be turned against them. Such as, shutting down the government or, even, initiating impeachment proceedings. Above all, he wants to generate a violent, over-the-top reaction from them.

    Now...I don't know if those views are correct, but I can certainly see that as something Obama might want to do. But...if so, it appears he wasted a lot of his limited political capital with this effort. It seems he is NOT getting a violent reaction from Republicans. Here is Boehner's response to Obama...doesn't sound too violent or over-the-top to me.


    This certainly doesn't seem like the over reaction that Obama was looking for. May cooler heads be prevailing in the Republican Congressional leadership?

    We can only hope so.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    That is such a dishonest statement. It is just the opposite and everyone is aware of that.
    It's not dishonest because you say it is. Please point to a time in recent history where the government was more partisan and more dysfunctional.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    The Republicans have found it impossible to vote on almost anything except to repeal the ACA.
    That's not true in any sense, by any measure.

    Exasperated House Democratic leaders have compiled a list showing that they have passed 290 bills that have stalled in the Senate.
    The list is the latest sign that Democrats in the lower chamber are frustrated with their Senate counterparts.

    An aide to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) says the list is put together during each Congress, but that this year’s number is likely the largest ever. However, he said Pelosi blames GOP senators, not Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) or Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.).
    Senate sitting on 290 bills already passed by House; tension mounts | TheHill

    Even the House Democrats complain about the bi-partisan supported bills passed by the House that went to die in Harry Reid's desk and his Senate.

    So non sequitur, your facts are confused.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order[W:265]

    I see the Liar-in-Chief's fanny-covering squads are working overtime to cook up more batches of baloney. For pointers, they might want to watch some tapes of Lois "I Take the Fifth" Lerner lying about the grotesque, Nixon-like abuse of the IRS to persecute President Pinocchio's political enemies. Or, they could polish their technique by listening to Hillary "What Difference Does it Make" Clinton rattle off whoppers to explain away the jihadist murders of Americans in Benghazi, part of the fallout from Mr. Obama's private war in Libya. But if you really want to learn how to defend a damned lying tyrant with creative bull, as Pinocchio's sycophants are determined to do, you've got to study the master--Joseph Goebbels.

    For example, Goebbels' use of trumped-up provocations by Czechoslovakia to justify invading it in 1938 was a stroke of genius. The story was fed to the German people in the papers, on radio, and in newsreels. Our blood brothers in the Sudetenland were being mistreated by the vile, arrogant Czechs! As part of the German Volk, they were looking to the Vaterland for help! The belligerent Czechs continued to commit armed provocations against the Vaterland, all along the border! Germans were being killed! Our peace-loving Fuhrer showed the utmost restraint, but finally the outrages became unendurable, and he had no choice but to act! And when the heroic German forces swept in to their rescue, our Sudeten brothers and sisters wept with joy--reunited, at last, with the Vaterland!
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Americans not showing up at the polls exerted their will, which spoke volumes. It showed there is nothing to support about the democrat agenda.
    Or the republican agenda
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order[W:265]

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    I see the Liar-in-Chief's fanny-covering squads are working overtime to cook up more batches of baloney. For pointers, they might want to watch some tapes of Lois "I Take the Fifth" Lerner lying about the grotesque, Nixon-like abuse of the IRS to persecute President Pinocchio's political enemies. Or, they could polish their technique by listening to Hillary "What Difference Does it Make" Clinton rattle off whoppers to explain away the jihadist murders of Americans in Benghazi, part of the fallout from Mr. Obama's private war in Libya. But if you really want to learn how to defend a damned lying tyrant with creative bull, as Pinocchio's sycophants are determined to do, you've got to study the master--Joseph Goebbels.

    For example, Goebbels' use of trumped-up provocations by Czechoslovakia to justify invading it in 1938 was a stroke of genius. The story was fed to the German people in the papers, on radio, and in newsreels. Our blood brothers in the Sudetenland are being mistreated by the vile, arrogant Czechs! As part of the German Volk, they are looking to the Vaterland for help! The Czechs are continually committing belligerent provocations against the Vaterland, all along the border! Our peace-loving Fuhrer showed the utmost restraint, but finally the outrages became unendurable, and there was no choice but to act. And when the heroic German forces swept in to their rescue, our Sudeten brothers and sisters wept with joy--reunited, at last, with the Vaterland!
    For all your blather about tyrants and the Third Reich, I'm still waiting for you to post an argument containing a legal arguement that shows Obama did anything illegal here
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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