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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    It takes two to tango and Obama is the most partisan president in my memory and has created the most divided government in history.


    That is such a dishonest statement. It is just the opposite and everyone is aware of that.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    It's not like Obama didn't receive a clear message regarding his policies from the will of the people during the recent election cycle.

    He has no interest in working with anyone, just furthering his own agenda.
    I think you mean "the will of the 20% of the population that voted"
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Plenty of presidents have worked with congress. This president hasn't tried to work with congress. Democrats passed Obamacare on a strictly partisan vote and ever since, obama has become the my way or the highway president. His idea of negotiating with congress is to have them agree with him. That's not how negotiations work. Obama lacked executive experience when he was elected and he doesn't understand building consensus. He just tries to ram crap down our throats like he did last night. This time though instead of not working with congress, he didn't work with the American people.



    This Congress has refused to work with this President on most issues and, unfortunately, will continue to do so.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's nice to know. But I'm curious about the evolution on Obama's own opinion on it. He said for years that it isn't "perfectly legal".

    Is this your opinion as a Constitutional scholar? And why do you know more about the Constitution than the guy who taught Constitutional law did for so long?


    He didn't DO anything. All he did was defer deportation for a short period of time.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yes.....that's what he did.

    Yes it is nice, as it will lead to one of the arguments against.

    Congress gave power to the office of Presidency over Humanitarian relief with any emergency and the same with Foreign Policy.

    Yes it already pointed out that it is a Constitutional argument. Though do try and keep up with what News Sources are saying along with the Constitutional Attorneys.



    As the President is the one who has undocumented people deported, he is certainly the one who can defer such deportations.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    So what are you talking about here? The past? The present? Or..."ever".

    The present Congress is the present Congress and the last Congress is the past Congress. Got it?

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Mo.

    Obama promised as a candidate running for President in 2008 to have an immigration bill during his first year in office and to move forward on it quickly. He never kept that promise to the Latino community, even though both the House and Senate were Dem controlled. He concentrated on Obamacare instead. Now he is making new promises to them, but the House and Senate will be Repub controlled. I wonder how many will believe him this time around?

    On children immigrants, he referred to them as a "brief spike." In actual fact, the number of unaccompanied children has been on the rise since the 2011 budget year. That year, about 16,000 children were found crossing the border alone. In 2012 the Border Patrol reported more than 24,000, and more than 38,800 in 2013. So far this budget year, more than 68,361 were apprehended. That's not a "brief spike" by anyone's understanding! Does this mean that any parents that care about their children will soon be following them? It is beyond my understanding how they could allow their children, some very young, to go in the first place! We watch our children with a hawk eye at a local playground! Sheesh!
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    Yes, Obama blames congress for his shortcomings (lies) again.

    With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that’s just not the case, because there are laws on the books that Congress has passed ….

    There are enough laws on the books by Congress that are very clear in terms of how we have to enforce our immigration system that for me to simply through executive order ignore those congressional mandates would not conform with my appropriate role as President.”

    His Own Words: Obama Said He Doesn't Have Authority For Executive Amnesty 22 Times - Katie Pavlich
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Having been there...done that...I feel your pain.

    You know, that would make a great sig-line for you.


    That "is" a good idea. Did you quit? even with a patch on my left arm, an e-cig in my right hand and gum in my mouth, I am going crazy.. I have gone from 1-1/2 packs down to half a pack and I can't seem to go any further..very frustrating!

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Its nice to see Obama grow a little bit of a spine and finally stand up to the GOP and get something done. Boehner and the house republicans remind me of Lucy in the peanuts holding the football and trying to lure Obama to come play nice with them.....only the yank the football away. Anyone who believes the GOP is serious about trying to work to solve the problems of this country is a fool. Republicans still have only 1 game plan....oppose everything and anything that Obama does. They didn't become the "party of No" for no reason.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I posted this video earlier in this thread...maybe you didn't see it. You would do well for yourself to watch it.





    Nowhere does he mention "amnesty"...but he does say this: "With respect to the notion that I can just suspend deportations through executive order, that's just not the case."

    And yet...that's exactly what he did last night.


    I would say that he did not suspend deportations, he only deferred them. Sounds like a case of semantics, but suspend and defer may have different meanings depending on the issue.

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