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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    there was not urgency that could not have waited for the new session of congress.
    There are people who disagree with your opinion. The President is one of them.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Meister View Post
    connect the dots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    That seems to cover children. I am curious about adults who came in illegally five or more years ago.

    I am aware of the site you provided the link to.
    The same applies to adults.

    The page is about how children prove residency because the page is meant to help children. However, the types of documents that can be used to help children prove residency can also be used by adults
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    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    For leftists like Mr. Obama, lying is standard procedure. He has been a damned liar throughout his political life, and he is a damned liar now.
    Unlike politicians on the right. They never lie
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There are people who disagree with your opinion. The President is one of them.

    The funny thing is, I don't disapprove with some of the meat of his orders. It's the extra-constitutional way he went about them that makes him a douchebag.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    The funny thing is, I don't disapprove with some of the meat of his orders. It's the extra-constitutional way he went about them that makes him a douchebag.
    There's nothing extra-constitutional about it.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    ďBO's executive amnesty violates the laws Congress has passed in order to create and implement laws Congress has refused to pass. BO is providing an estimated 5 million illegal immigrants with social security numbers, photo IDs and work permitsóallowing them to now take jobs directly from struggling Americans.

    Meaning they can access almost all U.S. welfare programs and will with State Welfare Programs too.
    That is not true. That is old bad intel before anyone knew what the order would entail.

    No SSN. No access to benefits not offered to aliens already.


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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    When you have a majority of people out there (including lawmakers) that are either uninterested, unable, or unwilling to get rid of the amendment, I do think it isn't reasonable or logical to do. It simply is a pipe dream at this point IMO. Do I think it should be removed or reformed? Yes. Do I think it is going to happen? Hell no. So I would rather focus on what I think we can do and can accomplish which is enforce the laws on the books and secure the border.
    You are arguing that logical and practical are the same thing. But they are not.

    From a strictly logical perspective, it would make sense to do so, as it would make at least of the contentious immigration decision making much clearer, cleaner and far more straight forward. Logical.

    From a probability, political, achievable perspective, it's a non-starter, and isn't going to happen. We agree on that.

    The two things are very different, and I maintain that something can be logical to do, but impossible to achieve, and therefore unlikely to happen.

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    I can completely agree. The problem is getting the politicians who are controlled by corporate lobbyists to agree. Hell it looks like even Rand Paul has fallen into corporate hands.
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