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Obama's Executive Order[W:265]

Is Obama breaking the law?

  • Yes, by his own words he is breaking the law

    Votes: 36 48.6%
  • No, perfectly legal

    Votes: 13 17.6%
  • Doing same as Regan and Bush did

    Votes: 13 17.6%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Dont care

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Go Fish

    Votes: 6 8.1%

  • Total voters
    74
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No, only 12 republicans voted for it. If it had bipartisan support at least a majority of both parties would have supported it.




Republicans voted for it and it passed!
 
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This is not true. You claim the temporary period is three years. The only thing they have to do is fill out some paperwork to stay. So the question remains, will 10 million illegals be easier to throw out in three years? At what point is temporary become permanent?

As far as the "do it or never get the White House" threat ProgLibs love to chant, the future is indeed impossible to claim with any certainty. The royal screwing the President has given the Black Communities and others will likely play a very large part in who is in the White House in the future, with, or without, rewarding failures from other countries who have come here illegally



Temporary means just that--not permanent! Well, we will just have to wait and see who gets elected in 2016.
 
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Yet when one Democrat in the House votes for a GOP turd, they call it bi-partisan .

Republicans voted for it and it passed!
 
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I haven't heard anything from GOP Governors Sandoval and Martinez of NV and NM respectively on IR--wonder why?
Just as both governors with Spanish surnames took the Medicaid Expansion and then ran straight to the fright wing and bashed PPACA.
Since the money would help "their" people since so many of them are the "working" poor.

Temporary means just that--not permanent! Well, we will just have to wait and see who gets elected in 2016.
 
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Don't think pulling a moderator's name out of your dishonest hat will ever make a difference with me MMC.
You pull this same garbage with me using Perotista's name and he just rolls his eyes at you.

As your President said, have the House pass a bill and go to conference.
Or give the Rubio bill a straight-up-and-down vote, as McConnell used to whine about last decade.
When the GOP used to threaten the "nuclear option" for the first time ever .

Exactly not.....when you figure out why Reid pulled back the Security Provision for the Bill the Senate passed. Then get back to me.

Also Zyphlin and I showed you what the House did.

Just because there is 3 or 4 threads that the left runs into saying the same thing. Doesn't mean it wasn't already debunked.
 
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Here's the problem with your understanding. The senate passed the bill, after which it's supposed to go to conference committee. Harry Reid never sent it to conference committee and the House never got a chance to look at it. Harry Reid is a terrible person and quite possibly the worst living American.

Senate Democrats keep own immigration bill from House, urge Obama executive action - Washington Times



Apparently because the House would kill it, but they have a bill as well, why can't they pass that one?
 
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Sure it was......as BO's excuse was he ran out of patience.

Also what he failed to mention.....was Good Ole Harry Reid pulling back the Border security Provision of the Bill that passed in the Senate. That would be the so called and alleged comprehensive immigration reform.

And the other part he failed to mention was the Bills that the House sent with the surge at the southern border that Harry Reid wouldn't let get past him, for Bo to use his Temp Pen.


So yes it was a lame excuse.....no where in the Constitution does it say when the President is out of Patience he can go around the Constitution.



The House, apparently has a bill also-- what is wrong with that one?
 
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Try again Juanita. ;)

At current staffing levels, USCIS issues about 1 million green cards per year. And when Obama enacted his first executive amnesty, the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals in 2012, wait times for legal immigrants to get their visas tripled from under five months to over 15 months. Only about 1 million illegal immigrants were eligible to apply for DACA amnesty and only about 600,000 were given amnesty......snip~

http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...7-house-gop-file-lawsuit-against-obama-6.html


The Office of Personnel Management is or OPM is responsible for conducting these checks on behalf of different Federal agencies. Besides, the Department of Defense and the Federal Bureau of Investigation conduct their own searches. These searches are always very detailed and cover all possible information about an individual.
A government background check includes information on all residential addresses of a person, all assets, accounts, credit reports, present employment and past employments. This is done to ensure that the person is loyal to the United States. Such though checking has become very mandatory after the September 11 terrorist attack on the World Trade Centre. This is felt necessary to ensure the security of the nation and its people.

Such detailed searches require a lot of time. For this reason completing the search requires a lot of time. It may take anywhere between 30 and 180 days to conduct and complete a search. The process involves many steps......snip~

Government Background Check


It will cost the American People more money and time.....as well as BO's Team hiring more people. Which with Uncle Sequester.....how is that going to happen again? Oh, and with the Full Congress of Republicans. :mrgreen:



I didn't think that they had to be that thorough, so that is interesting.
 
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Really? And if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor.

This amnesty is a nation killer. Combined with chain migration, a Ted Kennedy travesty, this will bring millions more third worlders to the US. If you pay taxes, if you buy things, if you earn under $100K per year, if you do not live in a gated community, you just got screwed. And you liked it.

This was a direct attack on the US citizen on behalf of an invading enemy.



Get serious!
 
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I doubt that very much.

Sorry it was NYT not TNR

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/21/u...ans-but-not-indispensable.html?referrer=&_r=0

Most latino voters are in Texas and Cali which are non factors in presidential elections and most swing states have less than the national average of latinos, the only state that is of real concern is Florida and most of those are cuban and puerto rician which is an entirely different voting bloc from the mexicans who want open boarders
 
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:shrug: unlikely. Reid has been doing this crap since long before the Senate passed an immigration bill.



OK, Reid seems to have his own agenda I guess.
 
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OK, Reid seems to have his own agenda I guess.

GOP Sen. Lindsay Graham from SC laid the blame directly at the steps of the House saying they had no such thing as an immigration reform bill.

Even House TEA-party member Raul Labrador from ID said the House will eventually pass a bill but it won't be what Obama wants.
Though he can't say when--though he's been trying for two weeks--knowing it would come to this.

See how the big lie from the GOP and its posters gets promulgated until some of their **** sticks to the walls .
 
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The House, apparently has a bill also-- what is wrong with that one?

Actually the House doesn't have a bill--according to their own Senators and Representatives.
What the GOP does have is division within its own ranks and it's high time DEMs do to GOPs what GOPs have done to DEMs--play divide and conquer.

Towards Dems, all GOPs have is the same old anti-Obama, Reid and Pelosi schtick .
 
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Actually the House doesn't have a bill--according to their own Senators and Representatives.
What the GOP does have is division within its own ranks and it's high time DEMs do to GOPs what GOPs have done to DEMs--play divide and conquer.

Towards Dems, all GOPs have is the same old anti-Obama, Reid and Pelosi schtick .



I thought they had one that was sponsored by Rubio? Just smoked my 11th CIG, so have to say goodnight, so I don't light up another one.
 
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That Dream ACT was passed on a bi-partisan vote by the Senate.
We're up to about 520 days since the House has sat on that IR bill.
I thought they had one that was sponsored by Rubio? Just smoked my 11th CIG, so have to say goodnight, so I don't light up another one.
Spineless Boehner shut the House down July 31st for 112 days until after the election, playing politics with IR, beheadings and ebola.
 
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The House, apparently has a bill also-- what is wrong with that one?

That bill was written by Democrats and was a blanket amnesty and leaving border security up to Obama. :lamo

That's why the House never brought the bill up for a vote. It was an amnesty bill that included amnesty for gang members, rapist, burglars, dog rapers. drug dealers, etc. Remember ? Just like Obama's exceutive amnesty includes all of the later , in fact Obama's executive amnesty is nothing more than making it a crime enforcing our immigration laws.

Also the amnesty bill that the Senate passed would cost the tax payers hundreds of billions of dollars. (close to a trillion dollars)

It would be cheaper to keep the illegal aliens illegal. It would even be cheaper to round them all up and deport them all.

Obama lied the other night saying it was a bipartisan bill passed by the Senate. Every Democrat voted for amnesty for gang bangers and open borders while 32 out of 42 Republicans Senators voted against the amnesty with no border security. Doesn't sound to bipartisian to me. Just another Obama lie.

Roll Call Vote

Cost for the American tax payers Senates amnesty bill. -> Cost of Unlawful Immigrants to the U.S. Taxpayers
 
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That is not what Obama said and you know it.
He did say pass the bi-partisan Rubio bill or pass your own and then go to joint-conference.
He should have said this on August 1st right after spineless Boehner broke his word to work on IR and went on vacation for 112 days .

Ummm...you know...we were talking about Reid. Not Obama.

Of course, those two are like peas in a pod...except one is smarter than the other...so it's hard to tell them apart sometimes.
 
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Temporary means just that--not permanent! Well, we will just have to wait and see who gets elected in 2016.

Yes, I understand you believe there will suddenly be sufficient manpower to process all those requests, and that it will be easier to deport millions of people in three years.

Perfect logic.
 
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Apparently because the House would kill it, but they have a bill as well, why can't they pass that one?

Do you know how legislation works?
 
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I did. You dont agree. Fine. Youre just going to keep raising the bar.

All you are doing is repeating some vague talking points without any specificity as to what Obama has actually done that is illegal and impeachable.
 
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Don't think pulling a moderator's name out of your dishonest hat will ever make a difference with me MMC.
You pull this same garbage with me using Perotista's name and he just rolls his eyes at you.

As your President said, have the House pass a bill and go to conference.
Or give the Rubio bill a straight-up-and-down vote, as McConnell used to whine about last decade.
When the GOP used to threaten the "nuclear option" for the first time ever .



What in the hell are you talking about Nimby? Where do you come up with this Bull**** of trying to call people dishonest. Did you want to say you weren't in the thread where the links were shown about Reid and that Senate Bill or the House and their Bills during the surge of children on the southern border? Were you denying Reid held back the Security provision of that passed bill? Did you want to say the Repubs didn't send anything to Reid?

Oh and yeah with Pero he knows who is up on what and it sure isn't you.

Btw, Rubio backed off from his immigration plan. Of course if you kept up with current issues. You might have picked that up already.
 
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The House, apparently has a bill also-- what is wrong with that one?

Well for one thing it limits what BO can do with Immigration.....which is why Reid stopped it.
 
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