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Obama's Executive Order[W:265]

Is Obama breaking the law?

  • Yes, by his own words he is breaking the law

    Votes: 36 48.6%
  • No, perfectly legal

    Votes: 13 17.6%
  • Doing same as Regan and Bush did

    Votes: 13 17.6%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Dont care

    Votes: 3 4.1%
  • Go Fish

    Votes: 6 8.1%

  • Total voters
    74
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This will cost the nation Nimby. It will cost you personally one way or another. This diminishes the nation. The rule of law is gone. The Constitution was voided. The chief executive is a lawless thug. The Congress is weak and effeminate.

If you work your wages were suppressed. We have lost our sovereignty. We are poised to lose our culture and our language.

I understand why liberals cheer. Everything you want will happen. In a decade the nation will be solidly one party ruled. Every liberal dream will come true. The wealthy who can leave will do so. You will have the socialism you desire.

Everyone not in the ruling class will be equal in their misery.

Hooray for your side.

Arm up.



Sounds like a meltdown!
 
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:lol: it is obvious that he didn't "get" your first inference to Bush's lies, so won't "get" this one either.

You should know from my responses to him that I DID get his inferences...and that I dismissed them out of hand as deflections.
 
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Defunding the left means far more than not funding to provide millions of green cards. I want the EPA to die on the vine. I want the Education department to die. I want white house travel curtailed. I want NPR defunded. I want every single leftist program that the Congress can defund to be defunded.

I want the Congress to refuse to sit any of Obama's appointees. I want to seed the judiciary defunded, dissolved and the liberal judges thrown out.

This is war. I prefer it stay a war of non-lethal actions for as long as possible.



Definitely a full blown meltdown! War? Non lethal for as long as possible? What then?
 
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Are you another who foolishly believes the way to stop a tyrant is to do nothing?

Impeach the Tyrant. Convict the Tyrant. Throw the Tyrant out of office. Then arrest him and try him for treason, for waging war against the American citizen. Treason deserves capital punishment. But a life in jail for the traitor would be acceptable.

Then go after all who aided and abetted his actions.



You are so far to the right that you are hanging on by a thread! That is not a good place to be.
 
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hmmm...okay.

For clarity, then, am I correct to understand that you do agree that it's hard to impossible to tell when Obama is lying and when he's not?



He may stretch things occasionally, as all politicians do, but I don't believe that his aim in life is to lie to the American people
 
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They don't need to Impeach, they can defund most of his Amnesty without shutting down the government. Plus they can write legislation over it forcing him to use his Pen highlighting him and his party as the Obstructionists, going into 2016.

Just look at who the new Chairs are on the Judiciary, House Overcite, Budget, Weighs and Means......BO has serious problems going forward with anything.



Which is probably why he did his EO now! He should have done it before the midterm elections!
 
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Sorry, you are mistaken. When Bush was elected, if you will remember, he tried to become close friends with Teddy Kennedy. He had him to the White House for bowling and movies. Then Kennedy stabbed him in the back. Obama never made that effort with Democrats, let alone Republicans. His first major legislative push was Obamacare. Please tell me how to use bi partisan and Obamacare in a sentence that makes just a little bit of sense. Certainly Republicans didn't support Obama's bad idea, which by the way were legion. Rush Limbaugh said it best when he said that he hoped Obama would fail.
Obama's failure is success for America,
although unfortunately he has been too successful in much of his agenda.



From day one of Obama's 1st term Limbaugh and the party he leads, the G-nO-P, have hoped that America would fail to recover from the depression that Bush mis-led America into so that they could say Obama had failed.

But America didn't fail, and Obama hasn't failed. Whether you like it or not he'll be leading the USA until another Democrat takes his place.

Deal with it. :roll:
 
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He may stretch things occasionally, as all politicians do, but I don't believe that his aim in life is to lie to the American people

I'm not sure why you even responded to my post. Not only was it NOT directed at you and I said nothing about what Obama's "aim in life" is...but you didn't even answer the question that I asked of pbrauer.

All in all, I'd have to say you made a useless post.
 
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From day one of Obama's 1st term Limbaugh and the party he leads, the G-nO-P, have hoped that America would fail to recover from the depression that Bush mis-led America into so that they could say Obama had failed.

But America didn't fail, and Obama hasn't failed. Whether you like it or not he'll be leading the USA until another Democrat takes his place.

Deal with it. :roll:

I must point out here that the Bush recession had its roots and firm foundation in clinton/Greenspan's feeding the irrational exuberance so well. We are still paying that bill to be fair to Obama.
 
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Without a doubt its perfectly perfectly legal.

I suspect you are right. A law would have been better. But there is no concensus. But maybe Congress will be prodded into action.
 
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I must point out here that the Bush recession had its roots and firm foundation in clinton/Greenspan's feeding the
irrational exuberance
so well. We are still paying that bill to be fair to Obama.




Irrational exuberance is totally irrational. :roll:
 
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From what I've seen, without referring to any particular persons, collectivists tend to have a strongly undemocratic, totalitarian streak. And they usually try to hide it by attributing that very characteristic to conservatives, while pretending to take the side of this or that poor, disadvantaged group against these jackbooted brutes.



Art thou a Jackbooted brute?
 
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I suspect you are right. A law would have been better. But there is no concensus.
But maybe Congress will be prodded into action.



I predict that any action that congress takes won't turn out well for the GOP.

What could the GOP do that would make it look better? :roll:
 
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Thats what its about right? Buying votes? Of course it is. Liberals are detestable like that

A conservative trying to lecture us about vote-buying? LOL, thanks, I needed a good laugh! :lol:
 
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From day one of Obama's 1st term Limbaugh and the party he leads, the G-nO-P, have hoped that America would fail to recover from the depression that Bush mis-led America into so that they could say Obama had failed.

But America didn't fail, and Obama hasn't failed. Whether you like it or not he'll be leading the USA until another Democrat takes his place.

Deal with it. :roll:

They can't. As in, they are literally unable to.
 
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Usually the pendulum swings back and forth. The partisanship of the Bush administration has intensified under Obama.

Yes, yes we know you enjoy making subjective statements which can't be proven one way or another. :shrug:
 
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It appears that Obama is beginning to take heat from the black community for his executive ord...I mean, memo.

Obama's Amnesty Order Harms Jobs, Schools, Health and Simple Fairness, Black Activists Say

Washington, D.C. - Activists with the Project 21 black leadership network are critical of just-announced executive action by President Barack Obama to grant amnesty to non-citizens illegally in the United States.

"What President Obama did is reward those who broke our laws. This will only embitter and endanger the citizenry and legal immigrants who are similarly looking for work, just scraping by and worried about their economic future," said Project 21 Archbishop Council Nedd II of St. Alban's Anglican Church. "God has blessed America with abundance, and I cannot fault those seeking a better life here. But the unregulated surge of people across our borders is problematic, unsustainable and in violation of carefully-crafted rules."

"By himself, and against the protests of congressional leaders, President Obama is giving the illegal alien community absolution for its law-breaking. Obama's action effectively rewards the intentions of these illegals to exploit a broken immigration system and lay claim to the American way of life at the expense of its citizens and legal immigrants who obeyed our laws," said Project 21's Derryck Green, a southern California resident. "Our nation will undoubtedly suffer from further and a likely intensified strain on our infrastructure as well as resources that are already limited in supply due to a poor economic recovery."

"What we are now witnessing with Obama's amnesty plan is a complete destruction of our constitutional republic. We no longer seem to live under a system of checks and balances or separation of powers," said Project 21's Shelby Emmett, a lawyer and former congressional staff member who dealt with immigration issues. "We the people apparently have no more say in our representation or our form of government."

Obama's Amnesty Order Harms Jobs, Schools, Health and Simple Fairness, Black Activists Say

And there is more at this page: Black Activists Speak Out against Obama Amnesty Agenda - Amy Ridenour's National Center Blog - A Conservative Blog


So...this doesn't sound good for Obama and the Democrats. This very well could affect the black vote in 2016. Now, I don't really think black voters will turn to Republicans over just this issue, but I do think it could cause black voters to stay home. I wonder if Democrats are comfortable taking that kind of hit.
 
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Μολὼν λαβέ;1064008723 said:
So that's why there was a Republican landslide victory?

Talk about denial...

There was no landslide
 
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I predict that any action that congress takes won't turn out well for the GOP.

What could the GOP do that would make it look better? :roll:

I was thinking along the same lines. Give someone enough rope and....


But it is odd. You would think that in such unsettling times with so many juicy issues that the gop would play a more pleasing tune.
 
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LOL!!

Okay...I got it. "ever" just means the current group.

So...how do you think the next Congress is going to treat him?



Like ****, just like this one did, but they can no longer blame the democrats for not getting anything done. It is on them now.
 
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Pretty much everyone from the New York Times to the Washington Post to Factcheck.org has all come to the same conclusion - the President explicitly said that to do what he did would be illegal, and then he went out and did it anyway.



I don't believe that the word "illegal" was ever used by the President!
 
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For leftists like Mr. Obama, lying is standard procedure. He has been a damned liar throughout his political life, and he is a damned liar now.

Well, we cannot all be as honest as:

George W. Bush (Iraq war)
Dick Cheney (Iraq war)
Colin Powell (Iraq war)
Condaleeza Rice (Iraq war)

And then there is a whole host of others who lie on numerous occasions like Nixon, Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, Donald Trump, Allen West, Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, Sarah Palin, Ted Nugent, John McCain, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich, Herman Cain, Michelle Bachmann, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

One who is also very good at telling lies is Rick Santorum, the man is a lie machine. During his presidential campaign he said:

Santorum, Feb. 3: In the Netherlands people wear a different bracelet if you're elderly and the bracelet is 'do not euthanize me.' Because they have voluntary euthanasia in the Netherlands, but half the people who are euthanized every year, and it's 10 percent of all deaths for the Netherlands, half of those people are euthanized involuntarily at hospitals because they are older and sick. And so elderly people in the Netherlands don't go to the hospital, they go to another country, because they are afraid, because of budget purposes, that they will not come out of that hospital if they go in with sickness.

Rick Santorum Claims About Euthanasia In The Netherlands Are Way Off Base: Fact Check

All of which he said in this speech was moronic and lies, lies and nothing but lies.

Both political parties lie through their teeth.
 
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