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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Think about it. The lower paying jobs that these immigrants are taking are the starter jobs that those starting their working careers need to get started.

    I guess Obama must really hate America's youth.

    First he dumps the vast majority of the ObamaCare costs on them, and then, does little more than increase the competition for the jobs they need to start their lives by adding what? 4-5m more people competing for the same jobs?

    Yeah. Obama must really hate American's young people, and yet, he's also fooled them into voting him into office not only once, but twice. That's surely not going to just disappear in the coming years, as these people certainly are going to remember this.
    No, he doesn't hate America's young people. He sees them as a resource. He wants to get them on the government entitlement roles early by making it as difficult as possible for them to make their own way in life...under their own terms...in accordance to their own desires and decisions.

    He thinks that will make them beholden to him and the Democrats. More votes. And with all the millions of newly legalized illegal aliens to support him, it a two-fer win.

    It's all political.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    8 C.F.R. § 274a.12(c)(1) does not refer to parole via the two laws you cited, which is the law that the author of link cited.
    No, they do not explicitly refer to work authorizations, but they remove the "unauthorized alien" status from the immigrant which is what prevents them from getting work authorization.

    8 C.F.R. § 274a.12(c)(1) explicitly states that "An alien whose enforced departure from the United States has been deferred in accordance with a directive from the President of the United States to the Secretary. Employment is authorized for the period of time and under the conditions established by the Secretary pursuant to the Presidential directive" is one of the "Classes of aliens authorized to accept employment."
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    request denied

    The word temporary does not require a definite length of time

    temporary: definition of temporary in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)
    Perhaps you missed my question. Allow me to repeat it.

    "Please precisely define the length of time implied by his word, "temporary"."

    For clarification, "his" refers to the President, not the editor of a dictionary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    The House has been sitting on a Comprehensive Immigration Bill that the Senate passed a year and a half ago!
    And Obama's actions since WRT immigration enforcement policies have made it next to impossible for a Republican to vote for it.

    The congressional gridlock that he complains about can be traced back to his action. It's just that he blames Republicans, and the majority of the ill informed believe him.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And Obama's actions since WRT immigration enforcement policies have made it next to impossible for a Republican to vote for it.

    The congressional gridlock that he complains about can be traced back to his action. It's just that he blames Republicans, and the majority of the ill informed believe him.
    Yup, the MSM has made sure of that.

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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Perhaps you missed my question. Allow me to repeat it.

    "Please precisely define the length of time implied by his word, "temporary"."

    For clarification, "his" refers to the President, not the editor of a dictionary.
    I heard your question

    I ignored it because it is irrelevant. And your use of the word "his" is just as inaccurate as your use of the word temporary. The word temporary, in this context, is not the Presidents word; it's the law.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Correction: Congress has never worked with the President--EVER..
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    Oh...you know that's not true.

    Congress worked very well with Obama to shove Obamacare down our throats.
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    That was the past, this is the present.
    'Ever' doesn't include the past? News to me.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No, he doesn't hate America's young people. He sees them as a resource. He wants to get them on the government entitlement roles early by making it as difficult as possible for them to make their own way in life...under their own terms...in accordance to their own desires and decisions.

    He thinks that will make them beholden to him and the Democrats. More votes. And with all the millions of newly legalized illegal aliens to support him, it a two-fer win.

    It's all political.

    Here is some of what he has out.


    White House Details on Anticipated Administrative Relief.....


    Here are the 5 things that you should know about the President’s initiatives impacting undocumented immigrants in the US:

    1. You must meet strict requirements to qualify for relief from deportation.Eligible immigrants will have the opportunity to request temporary relief from deportation and work authorization if they come forward and pass criminal and national security background checks, pay their taxes, pay a fee, and show that they are:

    A parent of US citizens or lawful permanent residents on the date of the announcement, are not enforcement priorities and have been in the US since January 1, 2010, or An individual who arrived in the US before turning 16 years old and before January 1, 2010, regardless of how old they are today. Additionally, we are reducing the time that families are separated while obtaining their green cards. Undocumented immigrants who are immediate relatives of lawful.....snip~

    White House Details on Anticipated Administrative Relief

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    If you are going to have an immigration policy a born child's citizenship should be based on the parents citizenship. If instead you decide that everyone that is born in this country is a citizen you create a situation where you either have to separate a family when you deport them, accept criminals in your country to go without punishment to keep families together, or deport a us citizen just so you can deport their parents and not separate their family.
    A good bit of logic and common sense this.

    And hence a perfectly reasonable and logical foundation for eliminating the 'anchor baby' regulations and scenario. While it may have served the country in the past, that time has long since gone, and only caused greater complications for immigration policy and enforcement.
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    Re: Obama's Executive Order

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Not to mention that the previous actions that Obama has taken WRT immigration and enforcement decisions has made it all the more difficult, if not impossible, for a bi-partisan supported immigration bill to pass congress. He's created the impossible situation, and then turns around and blames congress and the Republicans. Just more dishonesty from Obama. Nothing new here. In fact, it's getting quite boring and predictable, this.

    Interesting to note that this past history, no matter how recent, escapes the Obamabots and the Biased Lame Stream Media.
    I seem to remember President George W.Bush tried to get immigration reform, but the Republicans were against it even then.

    The last president who couldn't get Congress to act on immigration - CBS News


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