View Poll Results: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

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  • I live close by the pipeline and I do NOT support it.

    5 6.41%
  • I live close by the pipeline and I do support it.

    3 3.85%
  • I do not live close by the pipeline and I do NOT support it.

    26 33.33%
  • I do not live close by the pipeline and I do support it.

    39 50.00%
  • I am not American and I do NOT support it.

    3 3.85%
  • I am not American and I do support it.

    0 0%
  • I have no opinion.

    2 2.56%
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I chose "I have no opinion" because I've seen too much from both sides, for and against, to know who's really right and who's wrong...or where the truth meets in the middle. I'm not ashamed to admit that I really don't know what the best course of action is here.


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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    They dont have the power. The pipeline has nothing to do with protecting the states from invasion. It has nothing to do with promoting freedom.
    100% disagree, especially with that middle sentence.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Unless I totally misunderstand things, this pipeline will pass through somewhere in my state (being that I live IN the "keystone state", it seems likely).
    And, I will likely take little issue with it so long as the environmental impact is accounted for and prevented as much as is reasonable.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    I don't really care about the Keystone pipeline.

    But I think it is almost none of Washington's business...I think it should be almost strictly up to the state's it would pass through/very near.

    How the heck is it the business of a Hawaiian Senator if an oil pipeline passes through Texas?

    Answer...it ain't, IMO.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Do you support the pipeline and where do you live in proximity of the proposed pipeline? By "I live close" I am using that to show you are currently living in a state or a neighboring state that the proposed pipeline will go through, just couldn't fit all that. If you do support it but do not live nearby would you feel different if it went through your backyard?
    Well, tbh, I'm not 100% positive how I'd feel if it were in my own back yard, but I don't think it would bother me. Maybe I'm just underestimating the effects. Can you enlighten me as to why it would be awful to live near it?
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Can anyone even figure out why this is an area of contentious debate? We're having massive arguments over:

    1) Whether to add a few thousand 2-year temp jobs.
    2) About 35 permanent jobs.
    3) Little to no affect on oil prices.

    Honestly, though... what gives? Why are we even talking about it? Either do it or don't, but let's not pretend like it's going to change anything for the better.
    But it's going to make everything better! Had will be 50 cents per gallon! Everybody will have jobs! It will bring peace between Israel and Palestine!


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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I don't really care about the Keystone pipeline.

    But I think it is almost none of Washington's business...I think it should be almost strictly up to the state's it would pass through/very near.

    How the heck is it the business of a Hawaiian Senator if an oil pipeline passes through Texas?

    Answer...it ain't, IMO.
    Here's the problem with that argument: if one state says ok, and the next state doesn't you don't have any kind of useful pipeline at all. This is what the Federal government was created for in the first place: interstate commerce.


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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not sure. I know the amendment to the bill was proposed. I agree with it. Why should we let Canada ship their oil through the US, with inevitable leaks, only to have them turn around and sell it overseas?
    I'm Canadian and I wonder that, too. Are the jobs in the Gulf Coast refineries worth the risk?
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    I don't really care about the Keystone pipeline.

    But I think it is almost none of Washington's business...I think it should be almost strictly up to the state's it would pass through/very near.

    How the heck is it the business of a Hawaiian Senator if an oil pipeline passes through Texas?

    Answer...it ain't, IMO.
    Actually it does and technically the reason applies to basically every American.

    The pipeline runs directly over the aquifer that feed billions of dollars of agricultural products. A serious leak has the capacity to contaminate large portions of the aquifer reducing the yields of such farm land resulting in big spikes to food products. As Hawaii (and I guess Alaska) too are the most remote states and lack land to grow their own food, food security and prices becomes an issues to them. Thus, the pipeline's route is in fact the business of basically all Senators.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, tbh, I'm not 100% positive how I'd feel if it were in my own back yard, but I don't think it would bother me. Maybe I'm just underestimating the effects. Can you enlighten me as to why it would be awful to live near it?
    I don't think it's that big of an issue to live with it.

    I think it's a bigger issue of ogallala aquifer contamination. Diehard Republican supporters of the pipeline always omit that some of the loudest opposition to the pipeline came from Republican Governors, Legislatures and Republican Congressional members of the states that would be negatively impacted from a leak contaminating their primary water source. What happens if production drops in our grain belt due to aquifer contamination? Food prices rise. Which impacts you.
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