View Poll Results: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

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  • I live close by the pipeline and I do NOT support it.

    5 6.41%
  • I live close by the pipeline and I do support it.

    3 3.85%
  • I do not live close by the pipeline and I do NOT support it.

    26 33.33%
  • I do not live close by the pipeline and I do support it.

    39 50.00%
  • I am not American and I do NOT support it.

    3 3.85%
  • I am not American and I do support it.

    0 0%
  • I have no opinion.

    2 2.56%
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    I support states rights. If they want a pipeline, they have that right. The federal govts job to protect our lives and liberty, thats it.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    It runs through my state.My problem is not the environmental impact but the fact they are eminent domain to seize the property.Eminent domain should never be used for privately owned companies and it definitely should never be used for foreign owned companies.
    Thats only one short segment in Nebraska, but I agree.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Thats only one short segment in Nebraska, but I agree.
    Nebraska isn't the only state that the foreign owned oil company is using eminent domain.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    I do not support it because I do not see any pros. Most of the jobs it would create would be temporary - with only 35 permanent jobs*. Other than that, is it going to lower gas prices significantly? I don't think so. It's a drop in the global market, and I haven't heard anything about it. So to rehash:

    1) No real jobs
    2) No drop in fuel prices

    What the **** are we doing here? Are we not looking at alternative sources yet? Let's build some more coal mines while we're at it.


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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    For about fifty permanent jobs, we get more carbon emissions, increased risk of oil spills through private and sacred lands, more money in the Koch Bros.' pockets, and little if any reduction in US gas prices. Sounds like a great deal to me!
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I support states rights. If they want a pipeline, they have that right. The federal govts job to protect our lives and liberty, thats it.
    Those are reasons enough for the United States government to block the pipeline.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah, and I've seen estimates that claim it would actually net reduce jobs, too; all ridiculous attempts to avoid a wedge between the environmentalist and union portions of the Democrat party.

    Worth noting, however, is the same state department assessment said that it would indirectly create 38,000 jobs.

    But by that measure (the one you presented) ALL construction jobs are "just temporary jobs". That seems to me to be a rather tough position for the party of Shovel Ready Stimulus to sell.
    What would you say if all Obama created was temporary jobs? I can't imagine it would be complimentary.

    Yet, here you are wondering why he doesn't create temporary jobs shipping Canadian oil to China.


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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    I support states rights. If they want a pipeline, they have that right. The federal govts job to protect our lives and liberty, thats it.
    So if one state did it and the next state over decided not to, that would be wonderful pipeline!


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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Do you support the pipeline and where do you live in proximity of the proposed pipeline? By "I live close" I am using that to show you are currently living in a state or a neighboring state that the proposed pipeline will go through, just couldn't fit all that. If you do support it but do not live nearby would you feel different if it went through your backyard?
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I do not live close, and I could support it with certain conditions: that all the environmental analysis is done and planning for accidents is done, that agreements are made to keep the oil in continental North America, things like that. Where we are on all that I am not sure as I don't really follow this issue much.
    That's not a bad idea. Keeping the oil that flows through it in the continental US.

    I just wonder what sort of ownership changes the oil would have to go through from the Canadian tar sands, down to the Gulf where the refineries are. Wondering if ownership isn't really transferred, and if such a stipulation could be legally made.
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