View Poll Results: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

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  • I live close by the pipeline and I do NOT support it.

    5 6.41%
  • I live close by the pipeline and I do support it.

    3 3.85%
  • I do not live close by the pipeline and I do NOT support it.

    26 33.33%
  • I do not live close by the pipeline and I do support it.

    39 50.00%
  • I am not American and I do NOT support it.

    3 3.85%
  • I am not American and I do support it.

    0 0%
  • I have no opinion.

    2 2.56%
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I would assume that is the point, and either people will react differently based on distance or not, and the poll is 100 % unscientific, and sometimes it is easier to work with the person who makes a poll than work against them.
    Many folks in Texas support the project because of the added jobs and revenue it would bring to the state. Oil getting to the gulf refineries by pipeline is less dangerous than by the use of rail to get it there.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Many folks in Texas support the project because of the added jobs and revenue it would bring to the state. Oil getting to the gulf refineries by pipeline is less dangerous than by the use of rail to get it there.
    That has exactly nothing to do with what I said.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    and the poll is 100 % unscientific

    Do you have a source for that wild claim? I can assure you the poll is at least 25% scientific.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I think the estimate was that after completion it would generate about 50 full time jobs. Not even a dent economically.
    yeah, and I've seen estimates that claim it would actually net reduce jobs, too; all ridiculous attempts to avoid a wedge between the environmentalist and union portions of the Democrat party.

    Worth noting, however, is the same state department assessment said that it would indirectly create 38,000 jobs.

    But by that measure (the one you presented) ALL construction jobs are "just temporary jobs". That seems to me to be a rather tough position for the party of Shovel Ready Stimulus to sell.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    If it were too be approved I would live fairly close to it, and I also do not support it.
    Well you are opposing a pipeline that is already built.

    The Keystone Gulf Coast extension was completed last January
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah, and I've seen estimates that claim it would actually net reduce jobs, too; all ridiculous attempts to avoid a wedge between the environmentalist and union portions of the Democrat party.

    Worth noting, however, is the same state department assessment said that it would indirectly create 38,000 jobs.

    But by that measure (the one you presented) ALL construction jobs are "just temporary jobs". That seems to me to be a rather tough position for the party of Shovel Ready Stimulus to sell.
    All construction jobs are temporary by nature; once it is built that construction job is done. But many construction workers (like me) often do maintenance and improvements on existing structures which help keep us busy (employed).
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Many folks in Texas support the project because of the added jobs and revenue it would bring to the state. Oil getting to the gulf refineries by pipeline is less dangerous than by the use of rail to get it there.
    The XL phase four has nothing to do with Texas. That segment from Cushing Ok, was completed last January. What is in debate is phase four or XL4, is in the north....duplicating a portion and building a new, shorter route.

    The proposed Keystone XL Pipeline (Phase IV), which would essentially duplicate the Phase I pipeline between Hardisty, Alberta, and Steele City, Nebraska,[9] with a shorter route and a larger-diameter pipe. It would run through Baker, Montana, where American-produced light crude oil from the Williston Basin (Bakken formation) of Montana and North Dakota would be added[7] to the Keystone's current throughput of synthetic crude oil (syncrude) and diluted bitumen (dilbit) from the oil sands of Canada.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Many folks in Texas support the project because of the added jobs and revenue it would bring to the state. Oil getting to the gulf refineries by pipeline is less dangerous than by the use of rail to get it there.


    For the record I oppose Keystone 4. Obama has screwed around and cost the bidders millions. With a northern route as an alternative I want those jobs to stay in Canada.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    All construction jobs are temporary by nature; once it is built that construction job is done. But many construction workers (like me) often do maintenance and improvements on existing structures which help keep us busy (employed).
    apparently you don't count.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Do you support the pipeline and where do you live in proximity of the proposed pipeline? By "I live close" I am using that to show you are currently living in a state or a neighboring state that the proposed pipeline will go through, just couldn't fit all that. If you do support it but do not live nearby would you feel different if it went through your backyard?
    It runs through my state.My problem is not the environmental impact but the fact they are using eminent domain to seize the property.Eminent domain should never be used for privately owned companies and it definitely should never be used for foreign owned companies.
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