View Poll Results: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

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  • I live close by the pipeline and I do NOT support it.

    5 6.41%
  • I live close by the pipeline and I do support it.

    3 3.85%
  • I do not live close by the pipeline and I do NOT support it.

    26 33.33%
  • I do not live close by the pipeline and I do support it.

    39 50.00%
  • I am not American and I do NOT support it.

    3 3.85%
  • I am not American and I do support it.

    0 0%
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, I do not support it. It can be hazardous, but that is not the only reason. There is no pay off for such risks.
    there is minimal risk or hazard..transporting by pipeline is THE safest and least hazardous of all the methods of transportation... there is no "better method".
    environmental impact is minimal( according to 5 different environmental impact studies, including our own state department)... and the company has agreed to additional safety measures that far surpass federal regulatory standards

    it adds about 3 billion a year to our GDP.... and those counties that it runs through will see average gains of 8% in annual tax revenues ( you know, those things that pay for our schools and emergency services?)
    and of course... there will be jobs added directly and indirectly.
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    when you take into consideration that the oil will be shipped with or without the pipeline.. it's a no-brainer.... the benefits far exceed the risks, and we'd be complete and utter morons not to run with it.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    there is minimal risk or hazard..transporting by pipeline is THE safest and least hazardous of all the methods of transportation... there is no "better method".
    environmental impact is minimal( according to 5 different environmental impact studies, including our own state department)... and the company has agreed to additional safety measures that far surpass federal regulatory standards

    it adds about 3 billion a year to our GDP.... and those counties that it runs through will see average gains of 8% in annual tax revenues ( you know, those things that pay for our schools and emergency services?)
    and of course... there will be jobs added directly and indirectly.
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    when you take into consideration that the oil will be shipped with or without the pipeline.. it's a no-brainer.... the benefits far exceed the risks, and we'd be complete and utter morons not to run with it.
    This is what I got:

    5) The Keystone XL project, if built, would support 42,000 jobs over its two-year construction period. The report notes that building the pipeline would support approximately 42,100 direct and indirect jobs and contribute roughly $3.4 billion to the economy (that's about 0.02 percent of GDP).

    About 3,900 of those jobs would be temporary construction jobs. After two years, once built, the pipeline would support 50 jobs. Five takeaways from State Department’s review of the Keystone XL pipeline - The Washington Post

    Not worth the potential hazards IMO.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It almost passed the current Senate, missing by 1 vote. It will probably definitely pass the 2015 Congress and sit on the President's desk waiting for his veto. But if it creates enough temp jobs and lowering oil prices, in comparison to environmental impact, there will be pressure on Obama to sign it.
    Didn't Hillary okay the environment part of it a few years ago when she was SOS?

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by leoborn View Post
    Didn't Hillary okay the environment part of it a few years ago when she was SOS?
    I know they said the proposal was being environmentally explored by some committee for the last 2 years. Of course the problem is with possible leaks, not just the pipe installation itself. And most of the initial extra jobs created are only temporary. The particular kind of oil/tar/sand is one of the dirtiest that can be refined or extracted, so it's an environmental mess if the line cracks, which they often can. I think the risk is worth the price reduction for oil and reliance on foreign sources.
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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    This is what I got:

    5) The Keystone XL project, if built, would support 42,000 jobs over its two-year construction period. The report notes that building the pipeline would support approximately 42,100 direct and indirect jobs and contribute roughly $3.4 billion to the economy (that's about 0.02 percent of GDP).

    About 3,900 of those jobs would be temporary construction jobs. After two years, once built, the pipeline would support 50 jobs. Five takeaways from State Department’s review of the Keystone XL pipeline - The Washington Post

    Not worth the potential hazards IMO.
    not worth "potential" hazards?

    what "potential" hazards do you have in mind here?

    3 billion a year is nothing to sneeze at....an 8% increase in total county tax revenues from a single source? that's huge.

    i'm thinking that your risk v reward standards are irrationally high.... but meh, no worries... the pipeline will be finished.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Do you support the pipeline and where do you live in proximity of the proposed pipeline? By "I live close" I am using that to show you are currently living in a state or a neighboring state that the proposed pipeline will go through, just couldn't fit all that. If you do support it but do not live nearby would you feel different if it went through your backyard?
    I support the pipeline and I will move to wherever construction of the pipeline is being conducted so as to get my piece of the pie.

    I don't own a home for anything to then run through it's backyard.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not sure. I know the amendment to the bill was proposed. I agree with it. Why should we let Canada ship their oil through the US, with inevitable leaks, only to have them turn around and sell it overseas?
    Have to pay for ObamaCare somehow.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    not worth "potential" hazards?

    what "potential" hazards do you have in mind here?

    3 billion a year is nothing to sneeze at....an 8% increase in total county tax revenues from a single source? that's huge.

    i'm thinking that your risk v reward standards are irrationally high.... but meh, no worries... the pipeline will be finished.
    Absolutely there are long term potential hazards. Polluting the water supply is just one example but a very big one. The tax revenue is very short term like for what.....a year for the figure you cited? Again, not worth the potential risk the pipeline can pose. What a shame.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Absolutely there are long term potential hazards. Polluting the water supply is just one example but a very big one. The tax revenue is very short term like for what.....a year for the figure you cited? Again, not worth the potential risk the pipeline can pose. What a shame.
    where did you get the wrong idea that they only pay taxes once?

    Kansas is providing them with a 10 year tax holiday... all other counties will collect property taxes ( among other taxes)every year... year in, year out.

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    Re: Do you support the Keystone XL pipeline?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    where did you get the wrong idea that they only pay taxes once?

    Kansas is providing them with a 10 year tax holiday... all other counties will collect property taxes ( among other taxes)every year... year in, year out.
    Providing TransCanada a tax holiday for ten years is a good thing for tax revenue...... HOW???

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