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    Re: Do you support Net Neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    There is the democrat proposal to control the internet called "Net Neutrality" I am against that bill.
    Which bill would that be?

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    Re: Do you support Net Neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by ModerateGOP View Post
    It has not been proven to me, that the ISPs currently do this. I need to see proof that ISPs have throttled data in that case. As far as my research goes, they only do this after you hit data caps.
    Welll, it was proven that it was done previously by ISPs (comcast was proven to be doing it with P2P traffic). However, there's no indication it's actually occuring currently. However, companies have argued that they should essentially be able to do this in their briefs challenging the FCC's net neutrality guidelines. I believe it was Verizon argued that they should have the ability to discriminate against any data going over their network for any reason they choose, not just for legitimate concerns of network congestion as the guidelines required.

    The issue isn't so much that net neutrality is absolutely being stomped on today, but rather that there have been indications over the past 10 years of telecoms taking a step on it or expressing an interest in taking such steps and there's reason to believe that they will continue down that direction at a more furious pace as government regulation to the contrary is removed and the solidification of their psuedo-monopolies continue.

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    Re: Do you support Net Neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Well we could have just stuck with the previous FCC regulation, but Verizon successfully sued the FCC which means another way has to be found to preserve NN. If you can think of another way to get NN back besides reclassifying internet service as a utility, I'm all ears.
    Get congress to pass a law basically codifying the former FCC regulation into law, thus giving the FCC legitimate authority to enforce that SPECIFIC set of regulation without providing them far broader ability to regulate the industry that classifying them as a utility would do.

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    Re: Do you support Net Neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    There is the democrat proposal to control the internet called "Net Neutrality" I am against that bill.
    What bill is that? I haven't heard of an actual bill proposed by Democrats on this. I've heard of the President pushing the FCC to make it a utility, but that's not a bill. What am I missing here?

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    Do you realize, that if passed the democrat party bill would kill netflix? lol

    "The legislation, known as the Online Competition and Consumer Choice Act, would require that the FCC bar broadband carriers from selling so-called Internet fast lanes. For instance, Netflix would not be able to pay AT&T for faster delivery of its data packets to users than the data packets from smaller, competing internet video service that may not be able to pay for “premium” carriage."

    netflix paid comcast for a direct pipe.

    Senate Democrats propose bill that would force FCC to enforce net neutrality | VentureBeat | Media | by Mark Sullivan
    Ahhh, that bill. I'm actually not sure if the bill in question would actually do what you fear...simply because I don't think those writing the bill may actually understand what Netflix/Comcast are doing, and as such what their doing (interchange agreement) wouldn't actually be affected by such legislation. I'd need to look at the legislation closer though.

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    Re: Do you support Net Neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    What bill is that? I haven't heard of an actual bill proposed by Democrats on this. I've heard of the President pushing the FCC to make it a utility, but that's not a bill. What am I missing here?

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    Ahhh, that bill. I'm actually not sure if the bill in question would actually do what you fear...simply because I don't think those writing the bill may actually understand what Netflix/Comcast are doing, and as such what their doing (interchange agreement) wouldn't actually be affected by such legislation. I'd need to look at the legislation closer though.



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    Re: Do you support Net Neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    So that would be a "no." See, that's what happens when you refuse to be a part of the solution: you have to accept the one that somebody else creates for you. If Republicans don't craft their own bill protecting NN then we'll get the one the Democrats propose, just as Republicans refused to be a part of the healthcare reform process and we got the PPACA.


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    Re: Do you support Net Neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Get congress to pass a law basically codifying the former FCC regulation into law, thus giving the FCC legitimate authority to enforce that SPECIFIC set of regulation without providing them far broader ability to regulate the industry that classifying them as a utility would do.
    I would support that. Unfortunately the situation we have is that one party is proposing a solution whereas the other party is proposing no solution at all, and all of them probably don't understand the internet very well at all anyway.

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    Re: Do you support Net Neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Don't be daft. Republicans and democrats will craft a bill that helps them line thier pockets.
    I don't know that classifying the internet as a utility will do that. Do you know something I don't know to suggest it will?

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    Re: Do you support Net Neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I don't know that classifying the internet as a utility will do that. Do you know something I don't know to suggest it will?

    Show me a utility that is not taxed, or has "fees" tacked on. just one.
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