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  • Rapist

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    155 46.69%
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Thread: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    This is news for me.

    She does not claims intercourse though, does she?
    There is one person in the video, but apparently there's more than a handful of other women making the same kinds of claims.

    Rape allegations haunt Bill Cosby in the digital age | fox13now.com

    (CNN) — Nasty allegations have been haunting one of America’s most iconic comedians with a reputation for moral wholesomeness. For nine years, Bill Cosby has been accused of sexual assault by women who say they were the victims.
    Bill Cosby Accuser Details Alleged Rape: 'I Wonder How He Sleeps At Night'

    is one of 13 women who has accused Cosby of sexual assault,
    http://http://mic.com/articles/10191...a-forgiven-him

    Notably, two other women — who presumably had nothing to gain financially, as the statute of limitations had run out on their cases — also shared their stories with major media outlets. Their accounts included similar details: Cosby took them under his wing and, on multiple occasions, fed them alcohol laced with drugs and assaulted them.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Rape allegations won't go away for Bill Cosby - CNN.com

    What are your thoughts on Cosby?

    Do you think it's possible that he's guilty of raping women?

    Or is he a victim of false allegations?

    Now I know there's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing - but I'm asking what your gut feel is regarding this stuff.
    No idea. Hollywood has enabled predators before because they like the person or their work, and celebrities have been extorted before. I don't have any information one way or the other about what the man does when the cameras are off.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    No idea. Hollywood has enabled predators before because they like the person or their work, and celebrities have been extorted before. I don't have any information one way or the other about what the man does when the cameras are off.
    Doesn't it seem odd that there are more than a dozen women making allegations of rape for an entire decade and not reaping any benefits at all over it?

    Why aren't people accusing far more famous and far richer people of the same thing? Until recently George Clooney was humping his way through half the women on the planet. An allegation of rape against him wouldn't be surprising would it?

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Doesn't it seem odd that there are more than a dozen women making allegations of rape for an entire decade and not reaping any benefits at all over it?

    Why aren't people accusing far more famous and far richer people of the same thing? Until recently George Clooney was humping his way through half the women on the planet. An allegation of rape against him wouldn't be surprising would it?

    It takes effort to build a lie and then stick to it for ten years or more.
    I don't know if it is odd or not as to Cosby. As for the other, I suppose it might be a matter of awareness to it. There have been persistent rumors about Rob Reiner being Hollywood's Jerry Sandusky, for instance. May or may not be true. I have no information to form a judgment, but there seems to be a few male celebrities who have hinted at this predatory side of Hollywood. I do not spend a lot of time worrying about the minutiae of celebrity lives as there is no utility for me in that. They are dancing goats--if they entertain me, I throw a coin in their hat and if they don't, I won't.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Sexual assault has many connotations. Among them there is: Drug facilitated sexual assault, forced kissing, and groping. Which one of them is meant?

    I ask because the woman in video mentions touching but not intercourse. It matters because: Clarity.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Sexual assault has many connotations. Among them there is: Drug facilitated sexual assault, forced kissing, and groping. Which one of them is meant?

    I ask because the woman in video mentions touching but not intercourse. It matters because: Clarity.
    This sounds more like prostitution to me:

    Despite what she said was happening to her, she kept coming back. And Cosby and her agent financed her apartment in addition to supporting her acting ambitions, she said.
    It seems that the alleged sex was voluntary and in exchange for financial gain.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    This sounds more like prostitution to me:

    It seems that the alleged sex was voluntary and in exchange for financial gain.
    So the position is that now that her acting career is out of the window she is pressing for more financial gains with these charges? An above post said that some did not had any financial gains while making their claims though?
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    So the position is that now that her acting career is out of the window she is pressing for more financial gains with these charges? [b]An above post said that some did not had any financial gains while making their claims[./b] though?
    Maybe they simply feel cheated now, after hearing of others that did. Reporting rape long after any evidence remains makes the job of police and prosecutors very difficult.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    With public figures, I frequently remain skeptical of scandalous charges.

    Skepitcal, yes, but not the point of dismissing it without even hearing the evidence.


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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Well, given the fact that 1) Most rapes go unreported and 2) False rape accusations are statistically negligible (though they do still happen), I would say that he most likely is a rapist. However, I've been wrong before. I will say that this definitely needs to be investigated.
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