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Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

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This is news for me.

She does not claims intercourse though, does she?

There is one person in the video, but apparently there's more than a handful of other women making the same kinds of claims.

Rape allegations haunt Bill Cosby in the digital age | fox13now.com

(CNN) — Nasty allegations have been haunting one of America’s most iconic comedians with a reputation for moral wholesomeness. For nine years, Bill Cosby has been accused of sexual assault by women who say they were the victims.

Bill Cosby Accuser Details Alleged Rape: 'I Wonder How He Sleeps At Night'

is one of 13 women who has accused Cosby of sexual assault,

http://http://mic.com/articles/101918/13-women-have-accused-bill-cosby-of-rape-so-why-has-america-forgiven-him

Notably, two other women — who presumably had nothing to gain financially, as the statute of limitations had run out on their cases — also shared their stories with major media outlets. Their accounts included similar details: Cosby took them under his wing and, on multiple occasions, fed them alcohol laced with drugs and assaulted them.
 
Rape allegations won't go away for Bill Cosby - CNN.com

What are your thoughts on Cosby?

Do you think it's possible that he's guilty of raping women?

Or is he a victim of false allegations?

Now I know there's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing - but I'm asking what your gut feel is regarding this stuff.

No idea. Hollywood has enabled predators before because they like the person or their work, and celebrities have been extorted before. I don't have any information one way or the other about what the man does when the cameras are off.
 
No idea. Hollywood has enabled predators before because they like the person or their work, and celebrities have been extorted before. I don't have any information one way or the other about what the man does when the cameras are off.

Doesn't it seem odd that there are more than a dozen women making allegations of rape for an entire decade and not reaping any benefits at all over it?

Why aren't people accusing far more famous and far richer people of the same thing? Until recently George Clooney was humping his way through half the women on the planet. An allegation of rape against him wouldn't be surprising would it?

It takes effort to build a lie and then stick to it for ten years or more.
 
Doesn't it seem odd that there are more than a dozen women making allegations of rape for an entire decade and not reaping any benefits at all over it?

Why aren't people accusing far more famous and far richer people of the same thing? Until recently George Clooney was humping his way through half the women on the planet. An allegation of rape against him wouldn't be surprising would it?

It takes effort to build a lie and then stick to it for ten years or more.

I don't know if it is odd or not as to Cosby. As for the other, I suppose it might be a matter of awareness to it. There have been persistent rumors about Rob Reiner being Hollywood's Jerry Sandusky, for instance. May or may not be true. I have no information to form a judgment, but there seems to be a few male celebrities who have hinted at this predatory side of Hollywood. I do not spend a lot of time worrying about the minutiae of celebrity lives as there is no utility for me in that. They are dancing goats--if they entertain me, I throw a coin in their hat and if they don't, I won't.
 

Sexual assault has many connotations. Among them there is: Drug facilitated sexual assault, forced kissing, and groping. Which one of them is meant?

I ask because the woman in video mentions touching but not intercourse. It matters because: Clarity.
 
Sexual assault has many connotations. Among them there is: Drug facilitated sexual assault, forced kissing, and groping. Which one of them is meant?

I ask because the woman in video mentions touching but not intercourse. It matters because: Clarity.

This sounds more like prostitution to me:

Despite what she said was happening to her, she kept coming back. And Cosby and her agent financed her apartment in addition to supporting her acting ambitions, she said.

It seems that the alleged sex was voluntary and in exchange for financial gain.
 
This sounds more like prostitution to me:

It seems that the alleged sex was voluntary and in exchange for financial gain.

So the position is that now that her acting career is out of the window she is pressing for more financial gains with these charges? An above post said that some did not had any financial gains while making their claims though?
 
So the position is that now that her acting career is out of the window she is pressing for more financial gains with these charges? An above post said that some did not had any financial gains while making their claims[./b] though?


Maybe they simply feel cheated now, after hearing of others that did. Reporting rape long after any evidence remains makes the job of police and prosecutors very difficult.
 
Well, given the fact that 1) Most rapes go unreported and 2) False rape accusations are statistically negligible (though they do still happen), I would say that he most likely is a rapist. However, I've been wrong before. I will say that this definitely needs to be investigated.
 
I have to admit the accusers sound very credible.

A piece of my inner child has died.

You've got to remember that before becoming everyone's TV doctor dad, he was an occasionally raunchy comic.
 
I don't know if he is guilty of rape.

But I do know he is guilty of being butt ass stupid for allowing a 17 year old girl stay in his house with him.
I do know the parents of this girl are also butt ass stupid for allowing their daughter to spend the night unsupervised with someone they don't know.
 
It seems like most men who obtain some kind of power use it to take advantage of the women in their midst. That's something we ought to address about ourselves and hold ourselves to a higher standard so this kind of thing doesn't happen.
 
Rape allegations won't go away for Bill Cosby - CNN.com

What are your thoughts on Cosby?

Do you think it's possible that he's guilty of raping women?

Or is he a victim of false allegations?

Now I know there's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing - but I'm asking what your gut feel is regarding this stuff.

The allegations against a former President were dismissed and ridiculed by his supporters, and they pretty much went away. Cosby is in the same place.
 
I don't know if he is guilty of rape.

But I do know he is guilty of being butt ass stupid for allowing a 17 year old girl stay in his house with him.
I do know the parents of this girl are also butt ass stupid for allowing their daughter to spend the night unsupervised with someone they don't know.

Kinda like the idiot parents who let their kids have sleepovers with Michael Jackson. :doh
 
He's innocent in the eyes of the law only.



Until it's proven in a court that he did a deed of the dirty variety without some ladies permission he's innocent.

It takes a lot more than accusations to prove anyone's guilt



I'm not a Bill Cosby fan but I don't see any reason that he shouldn't get the same presumption of innocence that everyone else gets in the USA.
 
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Well, given the fact that 1) Most rapes go unreported and 2) False rape accusations are statistically negligible (though they do still happen), I would say that he most likely is a rapist. However, I've been wrong before. I will say that this definitely needs to be investigated.

... Can I ask on what you base #1 and #2?
 
Skepitcal, yes, but not the point of dismissing it without even hearing the evidence.

Like I said, I don't dismiss it, but I won't be swayed one way or the other. I also have no real compulsion to protect my childhood from being ruined. I grew up listening to his stand-up (I never watched his shows), but that doesn't really sway my sympathies.
 
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I smell gold digger - I don't however doubt that Cosby is human and has needs just like everyone else. What i doubt is that he would rape this woman - especially since she kept coming back to him and his agent. A rape victim doesn't do that. She's looking for money and who better to get it from than him - someone she knows who others can corroborate her knowing and spending time with and who's got lots of money.
 
A lot of things are possible, but until the man is found guilty in court he's innocent.

Fair enough. But my opinion is: He's in for a serious set of problems in the near future.
 
Kinda like the idiot parents who let their kids have sleepovers with Michael Jackson. :doh


If he was the Wal Mart greeter I really doubt her parents would have let her spend the night with him.

It is all about the money. This may be a chance for her retirement money.
 
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