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  • Rapist

    160 48.19%
  • Victim

    152 45.78%
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    155 46.69%
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Thread: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    1) You answered your own questions as to why someone would wait years to report a rape ('Was it consensual? What's your motivation? Huh? HUH?').

    2) Bill Cosby is not running for political office.
    No.......he is not running for anything, however he did make some public statements on morality that did piss off many on the left. Not that it matters at this point. Where there is that much smoke, there is likely fire. I believe that at least some of these women, perhaps all, are telling the truth.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Rape allegations won't go away for Bill Cosby - CNN.com

    What are your thoughts on Cosby?

    Do you think it's possible that he's guilty of raping women?

    Or is he a victim of false allegations?

    Now I know there's the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing - but I'm asking what your gut feel is regarding this stuff.
    It's difficult to say since so many years have passed and there is no evidence other than she said he said. So many women coming forth with their stories it is hard to determine..That given any career he had left at 77 is over.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post

    ??????? Freudian slip maybe???



    Actually, I don't think any of the women accusing COSBY have anything at all to gain by coming forward at this time.

    Other than perhaps exposing some rather ugly truths.
    I think the thing to look for and consider is a pattern, which ties the stories together. I believe that I've read that a number of these women claimed that Cosby sort of lured them into a so-called friendship by telling them that he'd like to "mentor" them.

    If that's true, and I really can't back that up, but if it is true that there is a common pattern in which Cosby established a relationship with these women. I'm guessing that that'll be one of the first strategies employed by parties of interests who are seriously pursuing getting as close to the truth as possible.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    OMFG good catch!! Yeah it was Freudian. If I can turn anything ugly into a referendum on that asshole you know I will.

    I don't think anyone has anything to gain either, but I also never said that they did have anything to gain. Not everyone does something out of a quest for financial gain, though.

    When they have evidence of Cosby committing rape, I'll be anxious to see him tried and serve time, I don't care how old he is or how long ago it was. But accusations aren't enough to make me call him a rapist now.
    Agreed....while I think there most likely is something to at least some of the accusations against Cosby and in Hollywood anything is possible....as a rule, I am usually suspicious when numerous accusations suddenly pop out of nowhere at one time, especially if there is politics involved..

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's the thing though, statute of limitations has expired for most of those cases. The most recent one is almost a decade old. So why do this now? I think a lot of social conservatives don't want to see Cosby as a possible sex offender (even though - all of the accounts have certain things in common) because then they can't use him as the black paragon of virtue.

    As far as serving time. He won't serve time. He won't serve time because the Hollywood establishment won't let it happen. The Bill Cosby Show is syndicated. The Cosby Show (different show from the one previously mentioned) is syndicated in something like 60 countries. Fat Albert is syndicated in like 10 other channels. Add to that his Netflix syndication deals and spinoffs like A Different World (which he produced) and you have yourself a man who is not only immensely powerful but has enough money to make guys like Will Smith look poor. He probably has a team of lawyers working on stuff like this around the clock so it would seem highly unlikely that he'd see any kind of prison time. Besides, who wants to be the judge/jury that put America's dad in prison?
    He may not serve time, however whatever was left of his career and public life is demolished if any of these rapes are true.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    He may not serve time, however whatever was left of his career and public life is demolished if any of these rapes are true.
    Pretty much. The same thing happened with Michael Jackson. It didn't matter whether he did it or not. Same thing happened with Bill Clinton. Same thing happened with McCain. To the I'm personally holding judgement but I don't doubt for one second that a powerful (different than relevant) man from Hollywood would be involved in sexual molestation. I also don't doubt that there would an effort by that man and his lawyers would try and silence any victims wanting to come forward.

    What I do find damning is that all of the victims seem to have the same story. They were all taken to private places and allegedly coerced, fondled or raped by Cosby through the use of drugs or alcohol. A lot of them seem to have been taken under his wing. It sounds a bit weird for them all to have similar stories if nothing happened and for them all to have colluded and created a story where Cosby was in a position of power.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I think the thing to look for and consider is a pattern, which ties the stories together. I believe that I've read that a number of these women claimed that Cosby sort of lured them into a so-called friendship by telling them that he'd like to "mentor" them.
    That sounds similar to the playbook of Jerry Sandusky who groomed young boys for his sexual pleasure.

    I had so much respect for Bill Cosby. Been to his performance and watched him from back in the days of I Spy. I felt so bad for his family when his son was murdered in LA.

    It sucks when you find out someone you once respected is probably not the person you thought he was.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    That sounds similar to the playbook of Jerry Sandusky who groomed young boys for his sexual pleasure.

    I had so much respect for Bill Cosby. Been to his performance and watched him from back in the days of I Spy. I felt so bad for his family when his son was murdered in LA.

    It sucks when you find out someone you once respected is probably not the person you thought he was.

    Indeed. I too was a fan of I Spy and so many other aspects of his career.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    No.......he is not running for anything, however he did make some public statements on morality that did piss off many on the left. Not that it matters at this point. Where there is that much smoke, there is likely fire. I believe that at least some of these women, perhaps all, are telling the truth.
    That so many of them waited so long makes me fear that these were really people trying to sleep their way to the top and now have sour grapes about it. I mean Janice Dickerson certainly could have spoken about it for decades and it just feels like she is now trying to reignite interest in herself for the public.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Ayup.

    The further that number gets from zero, the higher the probability of guilt.
    Also the higher the probability that at least some of the accusers are simply opportunistic and piling on in the hopes of an easy payday.
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