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  • Rapist

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Thread: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    For the same reason some people waited 40 years to call out their priests for being pedophiles. For the same reason John Jamelske, Josef Fritzl, and Ariel Castro were able to get away with rape for decades before they were caught. Rape/sexual abuse has the effect of terrifying victims for long periods of time. That's what it's all about for a rapist though: power. Cosby, being in the position that he is, (which is basically Hollywood royalty) could have put many women in a position where they could be intimidated by his lawyers and dismissed by the general public. Who would believe that 'America's dad' was capable of molesting people. Wait... I'm getting something. Guess who else got caught doing something similar not too long ago?



    If the guy from 7th Heaven who played a damn pastor is capable of molesting a kid, why not America's dad?
    Yup, this is a very good post. There is a lot of truth that many women and men for whatever reason don't report sexual assault. Some of it stems from fear, some from embarrassment, some from the notion that nobody would believe that (insert abuser here) would ever do such a thing, and so on. Then you have the ones who know they are accusing for naught because money or power or whatever will protect the abuser. Then I think too there a lot who don't even realize until much later that they were even abused, because they put it out of their minds or because they were raised to not dare question the abuser (the priests are a great example of this happening). And then there are the ones who are getting abused by family members, and that's probably the hardest of all to report.

    That said, there are also unfortunately a lot of nuts in the world so there are false accusations too. Which is why I take the Crosby accusations with a grain of salt until there is evidence (Constitution and all that).

    I also remember the 1980s, and what's considered rape or date rape today was sadly viewed as "put your clothes on and run back across campus before someone sees you and it's all around Psychology 101 in 15 minutes that you're a slut", which is why back then it was far more common (and less reported) than it is today.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Which is why I take the Crosby accusations with a grain of salt until there is evidence (Constitution and all that).


    ??????? Freudian slip maybe???



    Actually, I don't think any of the women accusing COSBY have anything at all to gain by coming forward at this time.

    Other than perhaps exposing some rather ugly truths.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post


    ??????? Freudian slip maybe???



    Actually, I don't think any of the women accusing COSBY have anything at all to gain by coming forward at this time.

    Other than perhaps exposing some rather ugly truths.
    OMFG good catch!! Yeah it was Freudian. If I can turn anything ugly into a referendum on that asshole you know I will.

    I don't think anyone has anything to gain either, but I also never said that they did have anything to gain. Not everyone does something out of a quest for financial gain, though.

    When they have evidence of Cosby committing rape, I'll be anxious to see him tried and serve time, I don't care how old he is or how long ago it was. But accusations aren't enough to make me call him a rapist now.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If you have something to contribute, please do so. Your troll post was unnecessary.
    I could be wrong, but I think he was being facetious. Sarcasm doesn't come across well here.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    OMFG good catch!! Yeah it was Freudian. If I can turn anything ugly into a referendum on that asshole you know I will.

    I don't think anyone has anything to gain either, but I also never said that they did have anything to gain. Not everyone does something out of a quest for financial gain, though.

    When they have evidence of Cosby committing rape, I'll be anxious to see him tried and serve time, I don't care how old he is or how long ago it was. But accusations aren't enough to make me call him a rapist now.
    That's the thing though, statute of limitations has expired for most of those cases. The most recent one is almost a decade old. So why do this now? I think a lot of social conservatives don't want to see Cosby as a possible sex offender (even though - all of the accounts have certain things in common) because then they can't use him as the black paragon of virtue.

    As far as serving time. He won't serve time. He won't serve time because the Hollywood establishment won't let it happen. The Bill Cosby Show is syndicated. The Cosby Show (different show from the one previously mentioned) is syndicated in something like 60 countries. Fat Albert is syndicated in like 10 other channels. Add to that his Netflix syndication deals and spinoffs like A Different World (which he produced) and you have yourself a man who is not only immensely powerful but has enough money to make guys like Will Smith look poor. He probably has a team of lawyers working on stuff like this around the clock so it would seem highly unlikely that he'd see any kind of prison time. Besides, who wants to be the judge/jury that put America's dad in prison?
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    If you have something to contribute, please do so. Your troll post was unnecessary.
    I was contributing. I was responding to your post appropriately.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    OMFG good catch!! Yeah it was Freudian. If I can turn anything ugly into a referendum on that asshole you know I will.

    I don't think anyone has anything to gain either, but I also never said that they did have anything to gain. Not everyone does something out of a quest for financial gain, though.

    When they have evidence of Cosby committing rape, I'll be anxious to see him tried and serve time, I don't care how old he is or how long ago it was. But accusations aren't enough to make me call him a rapist now.
    The statute of limitations has run out for these old cases.

    Destruction of his reputation is the only reason now - seems that Netflix and NBC have both dumped their projects with him.

    Looks like karma has come back with force.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    When black guy rapes somebody - police put him into jail immediately, but if this guy is a public person, he have all chances to escape from punishment. Everybody remember the situation with O. J. Simpson. Nobody cares, have you proofs or no. People loves him and i think he will go unpunished and this is sad.Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???-156477_600-jpg

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's the thing though, statute of limitations has expired for most of those cases. The most recent one is almost a decade old. So why do this now? I think a lot of social conservatives don't want to see Cosby as a possible sex offender (even though - all of the accounts have certain things in common) because then they can't use him as the black paragon of virtue.

    As far as serving time. He won't serve time. He won't serve time because the Hollywood establishment won't let it happen. The Bill Cosby Show is syndicated. The Cosby Show (different show from the one previously mentioned) is syndicated in something like 60 countries. Fat Albert is syndicated in like 10 other channels. Add to that his Netflix syndication deals and spinoffs like A Different World (which he produced) and you have yourself a man who is not only immensely powerful but has enough money to make guys like Will Smith look poor. He probably has a team of lawyers working on stuff like this around the clock so it would seem highly unlikely that he'd see any kind of prison time. Besides, who wants to be the judge/jury that put America's dad in prison?
    I can't speak for what is going through the social conservatives' heads and to be honest, reading all the posts about Cosby, I don't see it split along party or lean lines so I'll have to take your word for it that the social conservatives are out in full force in support of Cosby.

    I'm a throwback of sorts. I always apply the "innocent until proven guilty" concept, doesn't matter who is being discussed or what else he/she contributed to society and so on. I remember way back when William Kennedy Smith was accused of rape in Florida, and I watched the trial; they had a big blue dot over the accuser's face. I can't stand the Kennedys as you can imagine, and they aren't exactly poster children for good behavior, but watching the whole thing, I was totally on his side. I think he did NOT rape her, the jury got it right. And I know a lot of people convicted him the minute he was accused simply because he is JFKs' nephew. That's just partisan bull**** hackery.

    Cosby won't see a trial unless something recent comes out.

    What is the net positive for his accusers? I don't know. But then again a reasonably attractive young woman is about to marry Charles Manson so anything is possible.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    I don't think politics played any role in this. Finding it hard to believe that someone took the time to research women who had contact with him over the last 30 years and find around 15 who agreed to make these accusations. He is not even running for office. That is a far fetch conspiracy.
    May or may not be political that all of them suddenly came out at one time after all of these years. If he committed even one of them, it hardly matters. He should be prosecuted. And where there is this much smoke, there is likely fire. However in politics, there is something called opposition research. Take Herman Cain. A ton of accusations of sexually harassing women came out the moment he looked the least bit viable as a presidential candidate. And the same folks on the left who showed outrage had no such outrage when all of Bill Clinton's escapades became known publicly....which included multiple cases of sexual harassment and one case of rape. Same with US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas. Opposition research dug up Anita Hill claims of sexual harassment. Those were late discredited in hearings and Thomas was confirmed.

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