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  • Rapist

    160 48.19%
  • Victim

    152 45.78%
  • I have my doubts about his innocense

    155 46.69%
  • Hoping it's all a lie

    154 46.39%
  • other - please explain

    152 45.78%
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Thread: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I have no idea what the answer might be, but I do have a counter-question.

    Why is that an important bit of data?

    Whatever the average is, each one needs to be examined and a determination made whether it has merit or not, and prosecution pursued if necessary
    Seriously? I don't know... if I were in law enforcement and someone came to me and said, "Big shot celebrity raped me!," I would investigate, but in the back of my mind, I'd always be like, "Really? Did he really do this, or is this a chance to get hush money?" But 14 different people? Hell, after 2, I'd be looking at him a lot differently. Even if there was only 1 accusation, I'd still investigate to the best of my ability. But the more people who accuse him, the worse he looks.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    I'm forced to consider the old adage "where there's smoke, there's fire". But 14 accusations and not one conviction makes him either extremely cautious or very diligent in covering up and paying off. A lot of famous and not so famous men go thru stages of compulsive behavior, though the more famous, usually the more scrutiny. I'd say it's possible but the numbers are probably not completely accurate. It'll also take a lot more evidence than hearsay accusations to indict him.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm sure there's more to the story but it still means he's the most successful serial rapist in history... one that's not only in the public eye but amazingly famous yet never caught.
    We should give him a monicker like the sweatered bedder

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Seriously? I don't know... if I were in law enforcement and someone came to me and said, "Big shot celebrity raped me!," I would investigate, but in the back of my mind, I'd always be like, "Really? Did he really do this, or is this a chance to get hush money?" But 14 different people? Hell, after 2, I'd be looking at him a lot differently. Even if there was only 1 accusation, I'd still investigate to the best of my ability. But the more people who accuse him, the worse he looks.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    I think the California statute of limitations of six years for rape.
    So the vary first question would be, did any of these events occur after after 2008?
    There is also a chance, that something that might have normal behavior (by Hollywood standards)
    in 1985, might be considered rape in a social context today.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    When it comes to sexual predators, we've learned it's no big deal for Demokrats... their party icon is one, and his miserable wife is complicit.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    As the number of women to come forth with accusations it doesn't look good for Bill's entertainment value.
    A few years my wife and I went to one of his lecture shows and it was terrific. So it is a shame that someone of his status could have this darker other side.
    This is just too many women to shrug them all off as kooks.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I'm forced to consider the old adage "where there's smoke, there's fire". But 14 accusations and not one conviction makes him either extremely cautious or very diligent in covering up and paying off. A lot of famous and not so famous men go thru stages of compulsive behavior, though the more famous, usually the more scrutiny. I'd say it's possible but the numbers are probably not completely accurate. It'll also take a lot more evidence than hearsay accusations to indict him.
    Rape is probably the most difficult crime to prove for numerous reasons.

    1. Most victims never report the crime.
    2. If they do report, many if not most report it long after there's any way to collect evidence.
    3. Because of the private nature of sexual activity, it can often come down to his word against hers. Where there are no witnesses, equally credible claims cancel each other out.

    Although probably not admissible in a trial, the best evidence the accuser is being truthful is multiple accusers all saying the same thing. This is especially true if they're sharing details other accusers had no way of knowing such as the reports that Michael Jackson called alcoholic beverages "Jesus Juice" to more than one accuser, information that was initially sealed when a subsequent accuser was deposed.

    As someone who thinks Bill Cosby is an American hero, this news is very, very difficult for me to process. Do I think he's guilty? I don't know but I have to give weight to the high number of claims especially considering I'd expect nothing but admiration and accolades from anyone who had the privilege of meeting him, not that he's a monster.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    My question awaits an answer: What is the average amount of rape allegations for a rich person or celebrity? Cosby has 14 allegations. Is that above or below average?
    Why don't you google it, maybe there's a study out?
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why don't you google it, maybe there's a study out?
    Unlikely. The point being is that there isn't an epidemic of women falsely accusing celebrities of rape. What makes Bill Cosby a target of rape allegations? From over a dozen separate women with no seeming connection other than Bill Cosby himself.

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