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  • Rapist

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    155 46.69%
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    152 45.78%
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Thread: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Lots of charges brought against Michael Jackson, too. Nothing stuck, because they all, for the most part, dropped the charges and were paid off.
    I only know of one settlement out of court with Cosby though. Are there more?
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Rape is difficult to prosecute except in egregious cases, especially when evidence hasn't been immediately collected.

    And why is Cosby being targeted by 14 women? What's the average rape allegation amount for rich/famous people?
    I'm sure there's more to the story but it still means he's the most successful serial rapist in history... one that's not only in the public eye but amazingly famous yet never caught.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm sure there's more to the story but it still means he's the most successful serial rapist in history... one that's not only in the public eye but amazingly famous yet never caught.
    Wasn't there a famous guy who got away with raping people for like 40 years -- some of which were children, the sick, and the elderly? Can't think of his name, but he makes Cosby look like a pauper.

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wasn't there a famous guy who got away with raping people for like 40 years -- some of which were children, the sick, and the elderly? Can't think of his name, but he makes Cosby look like a pauper.
    Dunno - but I'd like to see more than just accusations before convicting a man.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Dunno - but I'd like to see more than just accusations before convicting a man.
    For the record, his name was Jimmy Savile (thanks, Google). He was a beloved figure for decades. From Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_S...f_sexual_abuse

    By 19 October 2012, police were pursuing 400 lines of inquiry based on testimony from 200 witnesses via 14 police forces across the UK. They described the alleged abuse as "on an unprecedented scale", and the number of potential victims as "staggering".[115] Investigations, codenamed Operation Yewtree, were opened to identify criminal conduct related to Savile's activities by the Metropolitan Police and the Crown Prosecution Service into why a prosecution had been dropped as unlikely to succeed in 2009.[14][15] By 25 October, police reported the number of possible victims was approaching 300.[11]

    On 12 November 2012, the Metropolitan Police announced the scale of sexual allegations reported against Savile was "unprecedented" in Britain: a total of 450 alleged victims had contacted the police in the ten weeks since the investigation was launched. Officers recorded 199 crimes in 17 police force areas in which Savile was a suspect, among them 31 allegations of rape in seven force areas.[116] Analysis of the report showed 82% of those who came forward to report abuse were female and 80% were children or young people at the time of the incidents.[117]

    The developing scandal led to inquiries into practices at the BBC and the National Health Service. It was alleged that rumours of Savile's activities had circulated at the BBC in the 1960s and 1970s, but no action had been taken. Savile was trusted with keys and unsupervised access to patients including the mentally and physically disabled at some hospitals.[118][119] The Director-General of the BBC, George Entwistle, apologised for what had happened, and on 16 October 2012 appointed former High Court judge Dame Janet Smith to review the culture and practices of the BBC during the time Savile worked there,[120] and Nick Pollard, a former Sky News executive, was appointed to look at why the Newsnight investigation into Savile's activities was dropped shortly before transmission in December 2011.[120]

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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I only know of one settlement out of court with Cosby though. Are there more?
    Don't know. Was just making the point that just because somebody doesn't follow through on charges, doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I used Michael Jackson as an example, because it happened often with him.

    All I know is that there were 14 accusations of rape against Cosby. If this were anybody other than somebody famous, I would think you wouldn't be so lenient.
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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Don't know. Was just making the point that just because somebody doesn't follow through on charges, doesn't mean that it didn't happen. I used Michael Jackson as an example, because it happened often with him.

    All I know is that there were 14 accusations of rape against Cosby. If this were anybody other than somebody famous, I would think you wouldn't be so lenient.
    I don't think I'm being lenient I think I'm being pragmatic in wanting to see evidence before a conviction. Jackson was just.... creepy as he was sleeping with children and paid off a few of them. (Sex was never proven but implied - no evidence). But it is true that Jackson was never charged criminally either.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Bill Cosby - Rapist, or Victim ???

    We weren't there so we can't judge.

    I'm tempted to say this should be sorted out by the police and the legal system away from the media glare. However on the other hand, any coverage that raises awareness of this complex and sensistive issue can be a good thing. So while I'm kind of torn on how public this should be, what I don't like are salacious "Did he? didn't he?" guessing games.
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