View Poll Results: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

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  • Yes, it's a bad thing. Everybody should vote.

    20 40.82%
  • It's not bad, but we should still encourage everybody to vote.

    9 18.37%
  • No, it's not a bad thing. Leave people alone.

    13 26.53%
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    7 14.29%
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    What does that mean, bringing change? Does that mean electing a president who is not qualified for the job? That's the last change we got.
    I'm not going to get into partisan debates concerning the Republican and Democrat parties. It is precisely this sort of tribalism that stops many people from seeing that the system itself is the problem. And I'm neither a supporter of the Republicans or the Democrats , to me they represent the choice between Cheech and Chong , Tweedledum and Tweedledee
    America is supposed to be a free country, meaning we are free to make choices. To vote or not to vote is a choice. My experience is that there lots of people in the country who don't pay attention to politics and don't care about the process. While unfortunate if they don't chose to participate it's their loss.
    What things are supposed to be and what they are , are often two different things.

    Have those that don't vote fared markedly different from those that did ?

    Has your participation brought you any gains or losses that are different to those that never voted ?

    Having said that the only reason that we are talking about low turnout is that it's the last refuge of a president who got his clock cleaned in the mid terms. He's made it an issue to try to save face.
    And if the boot was on the other foot , would a Republican president not be using the same tactic ?
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I'm not for mandatory voting at all for the two reasons mentioned so I do agree with you there. And I definitely don't think that people should vote if they do not care enough to at least attempt to become informed. Still, I do think its a bad thing that more of our country does not attempt to inform themselves and vote, and that its a bad thing that so few people here are politically active and aware.
    This forum is example enough that even 'informed' people can have it so bat**** wrong.
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Most non-citizens tend to vote only in our Presidential elections. Like in 2008 and 2012. They sat out the mid terms in 2010 and 2014.

    They'll be voting in a vengeance in 2016.
    Not with the current forecast-ed group of candidates they wont be. I just dont see 'excitement' for the current list of contenders. Even on this site we have people working hard to convince themselves that taking a big ol heaping steamy spoonful of that Clinton **** brownie is OK and a 'good' thing. And some have said outright they will not vote for her. And thats DEMOCRATS. SO...I dont think 2016 will be 'better' with the same crop of politicians. Warren...Booker...I think those are names they will need to get some real excitement going.

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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    To add to the OP, the demographics say that it's the older generation that is mostly voting. When they are gone, what will happen? If that is not enough of a fact to make government want to engage youth, I don't know what is. Yet it seems some are more interested in suppressing vote. Pretty sad, don't you think?
    “No men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in, because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said... “‘Is everyone OK’? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody OK?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.”

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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    It really was bad this year.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/12/op...ears.html?_r=0

    at this rate, 20% of registered voters (which of course is not all of those eligible to vote) are deciding things for all of us. That is not democracy.

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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    It really was bad this year.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/12/op...ears.html?_r=0

    at this rate, 20% of registered voters (which of course is not all of those eligible to vote) are deciding things for all of us. That is not democracy.
    Actually it is. It was 47% in my precinct. We went 54% for D Governor, 54% for R Representative in open seat, 68% for R State Senator and 57% for R State Representative.

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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I believe that every citizen should vote, but I respect the right of those who choose not to.
    I echo the above sentiment. Of course, I'll try to convince the individual to vote whether he/she believes his/her vote won't matter much if at all, but I do believe that if you don't exercise your right to vote really don't have a right to complain about the government you get. For, as we're seeing in this mid-term election cycle low voter turnout could be viewed as a deciding factor as to why one candidate won over another. That's not to say that in some tight political races run-off elections don't happen due to low voter turnout for one side of the political divide because it has happened in instances of high voter turnout as well. My point, however, is if you don't vote and government doesn't seem to work for you...well, it's your own damned vault.

    Well, that and not being part of a well-informed electorate.

    That said, I wouldn't mandate voting. It's your right (option) to do so and I'll never be in favor of forcing that on anyone any more than I would be in favor of voter suppression.
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    It really was bad this year.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/12/op...ears.html?_r=0

    at this rate, 20% of registered voters (which of course is not all of those eligible to vote) are deciding things for all of us. That is not democracy.
    That is more than what votes in your typical local elections which involve schools, property taxes, mayors, city councils, law enforcement, local utilities, and pretty much everything else that affects peoples day to day lives.

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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    To add to the OP, the demographics say that it's the older generation that is mostly voting. When they are gone, what will happen? If that is not enough of a fact to make government want to engage youth, I don't know what is. Yet it seems some are more interested in suppressing vote. Pretty sad, don't you think?
    The GOP would have to run another Bush, or a Cruz or Rand Paul before I would EVER vote for a Keg-Legged Hillary. And even then, I might end up sitting that election out and not voting at all.

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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    Correct, so does giving your vote play a role in legitimizing and continuing what you already know to be " rigged " ?
    Not the way I look at it. I have been a firm believer this country needs a viable third party for a very long time. That by voting Republican and/or Democrat what you are doing is perpetuating a business as usual system. But by voting for a third party candidate be that Reform, Constitutional, Libertarian, Green, what ever party is on your ballot you are registering you vote against the two parties and for a third party. Sort of putting your money where your mouth is.

    I know both major parties has been bought and paid for by corporations, wall street firms, lobbyists, special interests and the like to incude pacs, super pacs and huge money donors. When each party can easily raise a billion dollars each just for a presidential campaign, that confirms it. Those folks I mentioned are good business people, if they didn't get back more than they donated they wouldn't do it. They are not donating out of civic good. They donate so they can get rewarded for their investment in the future.

    I am not rich, all I have is my one vote. But I can make sure my one vote is cast against the rigged system.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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