View Poll Results: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

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  • Yes, it's a bad thing. Everybody should vote.

    20 40.82%
  • It's not bad, but we should still encourage everybody to vote.

    9 18.37%
  • No, it's not a bad thing. Leave people alone.

    13 26.53%
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    7 14.29%
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    I feel similarly. I believe voting is much like pissing in the wind. I believe election outcomes are as much influenced by the establishment as it is by the voting populous. I am also not a believer in the "lesser of two evils" strategy and will not vote unless we have a candidate I fully support. I refuse to put even my almost meaningless vote behind anyone I find questionable. As a result I rarely vote and if they mandated that I do so well It wouldn't do them any good. I would still only vote when I wished to. If that meant a fine or some jail time, so be it. You are not going to make me support anyone that I do not feel deserves my support.
    I vote, but whole heartily agree about not voting for the lesser of two evils or the least worst candidate. Even if the least worst candidate wins, you still have a bad winner. I usually vote for a third party candidate in that case. The problem is the Republicans and Democrats have a monopoly on our electoral system. They, the Republicans and Democrats write the election laws and they write them as a mutual protection act. They write them to prevent any viable third party from arising. The whole system is rigged.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    To hear so many people tell it, you'd think it is. Some have even used words like "disgrace" to describe American low percentages of participation.

    Maybe I'm in the minority, but I simply don't see it that way.

    Some countries mandate voting. There seems to be an increasing sentiment in this country to do the same, to mandate voting. One of the claims is that people would be more inclined to research if they knew that had to. I don't buy that. I would be vehemently against that, for two reasons...

    1) I don't want the results skewed by people who don't care enough to research, or at least pay attention.
    Part one especially, an uninformed vote cancels out an informed one. I would rather an apathetic voter just stay home.

    2) The freedom to not do something is just as important, if not more so, than the freedom to have the ability to do something.

    IMHO, #2 stands quite well on it's own. And I detest "get out the vote" campaigns due to #1.
    Agreed. If someone doesn't want to vote it is no one's business but their own. Another point, the assertion by some that people who don't want to vote would do more research is ludicrous. Those that do the bare minimum would do just that for voting if it were mandated.
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    I believe that every citizen should vote, but I respect the right of those who choose not to.
    Most non-citizens tend to vote only in our Presidential elections. Like in 2008 and 2012. They sat out the mid terms in 2010 and 2014.

    They'll be voting in a vengeance in 2016.

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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Everyone should vote, but "no" mandating them to do so is not the answer. Perhaps there should be more appealing parties than 2 in USA. Other parties that reach out further to the people that do not vote.
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    People fought and died for every citizen's right to vote. Blacks, women, etc. at one time had no voice. They were all rightfully so given the vote generations ago. There was a reason they fought for it, and future generations are not sufficiently taught this history.

    That said, hell, it's up to you if you want to vote or not. If you choose not to, we're probably better off if you don't. You don't understand the value of your vote, you probably have no idea who the candidates are, you're probably more in tune with inconsequential things than your freedom and the impact government has on your life, etc. So stay home...fine by me.
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    yes. people should take the initiative to research the candidates and vote.
    I seriously wish they would. Then they might realize, once and for all , that the difference between them on many important issues is pretty much zilch. And if it's not , that the process for bringing in change is also hamstringed
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    The whole system is rigged.
    Correct, so does giving your vote play a role in legitimizing and continuing what you already know to be " rigged " ?
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by oneworld2 View Post
    I seriously wish they would. Then they might realize, once and for all , that the difference between them on many important issues is pretty much zilch. And if it's not , that the process for bringing in change is also hamstringed
    What does that mean, bringing change? Does that mean electing a president who is not qualified for the job? That's the last change we got.

    America is supposed to be a free country, meaning we are free to make choices. To vote or not to vote is a choice. My experience is that there lots of people in the country who don't pay attention to politics and don't care about the process. While unfortunate if they don't chose to participate it's their loss.

    Having said that the only reason that we are talking about low turnout is that it's the last refuge of a president who got his clock cleaned in the mid terms. He's made it an issue to try to save face.
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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    You can be as informed as the rest. Sometimes you can also be too disillusioned to go to the voting booth. It happens. Just ask me.

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    Re: Is not voting... aka "low voter turnout"... a bad thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Low information dumb asses screw it up for everybody.

    Okay. Fire away y'all. LOL!
    Ok, ready, set, fire.
    I agree with you, voting should be taken seriously, and it is also our right as a US citizen to vote. No matter what our beliefs, no matter where we obtain our information, no matter how we interpret that information, we have the right to have our vote counted, or to just stay home. We should be proud of that fact, proud that, no matter what our economic status or educational level or color of skin or ethnic background, we, as US citizens, have that right.

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