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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well, I'm sure you'd rather live in a society rife with poverty and social inequality. I've read more books than you on the matter, and really consider the alternative of social programs to be far worse. I don't even need the majority to agree with me on the subject. It's pretty obvious from looking at governments when these programs don't exist that social programs serve a net benefit that is far more important than your irrelevant sense of what you should be paid.
    I thought the liberal argument was that we already do live in a society rife with poverty and social inequality. Personally, I believe a society structured on rights, limited government, individual liberty and voluntary exchange and interaction is far preferable to anything you might have read.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Since it's not going to happen we're not going to find out what would happen.
    No, instead we will see more social programs in the future like UHC and universal daycare. Probably some other stuff too that I'm not aware of, but I'm sure liberals will inform me of what those are at some point in the future.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    That is a very simplistic view of what happened. The electorate sent a very clear message. Pretending they didn't will only guarantee a repeat of that same message in 2016
    Try not to completely lose your **** here. The election results aren't some utterly baffling outlier of what could be expected.

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    So almost-exclusively red states voted for Republican senators? No...WAY!!

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Try not to completely lose your **** here. The election results aren't some utterly baffling outlier of what could be expected.
    I am not baffled by the results. Liberals are in denial. This was a referendum on an unpopular president and his policies. If that unpopular president doesn't adjust his policies, you will see a repeat in 2016.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I am not baffled by the results. Liberals are in denial. This was a referendum on an unpopular president and his policies. If that unpopular president doesn't adjust his policies, you will see a repeat in 2016.
    Did you look at the maps I attached? With the exception of two states, it was exclusively red states that voted in Republican senators.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I thought the liberal argument was that we already do live in a society rife with poverty and social inequality. Personally, I believe a society structured on rights, limited government, individual liberty and voluntary exchange and interaction is far preferable to anything you might have read.
    The whole idea of social inequality is a bunch of socialist gibberish anyway.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hey, but if they vote against Republicans in 2016 (and have no doubt, they will), it won't be rejection of conservative ideas. He'll probably blame it on the media, Obama, low information voters and people hating the FFs. At no point will it be the fault of ****ty Republican politics which gave us a Democratic congress in 2006.


    Repubs have made the mistake before, of thinking that sweeping a given election or two was a PERMANENT rejection of the philosophy and practice of liberalism... when in fact what it was, was the American voters saying "we don't like how things are going right now and we're pissed off and scared and we want somebody NEW to do something ELSE and see if THEY can fix this idiotic mess!"

    The point being the new boss better be out front looking and sounding good real quick, and have some shiny new ideas ready to roll, and better be showing some results The People like within the next 2 years.... or The People will turn on a dime just as quick.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Repubs have made the mistake before, of thinking that sweeping a given election or two was a PERMANENT rejection of the philosophy and practice of liberalism... when in fact what it was, was the American voters saying "we don't like how things are going right now and we're pissed off and scared and we want somebody NEW to do something ELSE and see if THEY can fix this idiotic mess!"

    The point being the new boss better be out front looking and sounding good real quick, and have some shiny new ideas ready to roll, and better be showing some results The People like within the next 2 years.... or The People will turn on a dime just as quick.
    No, it couldn't possibly be a terrible campaign and uninspiring candidates. It must be liberalism. And pay absolutely no attention to the fact that the gained seats were in almost exclusively red states.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You should leave the whole "telling people on the left how they think" to people who actually can.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Doesn't' add up to me. Does it add up to you? I'm thinking not.
    I think not. Thats the thing about reality, it doesn't care what liberalism is about.

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