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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpn View Post
    That's funny. I wonder if you noticed that the GOP has refused to consider any of the policies that Obama and the Dems have proposed to accelerate the economic expansion. The GOP even refused to extend unemployment benefits, which has one of the greatest "bangs for the buck" when it comes to federal spending to stimulate the economy.

    Here's hint: The GOP has purposely sabotaged the economy as a way of undermining support for Obama, and the American public is too stupid to understand that. We have some $3 trillion in infrastructure projects we could be funding at almost no interest, which would have a dramatic stimulus effect. But of course the GOP wouldn't even consider Obama's jobs program that would have done exactly that.
    I wouldn't lay the fault at the hands of the people. What did the Democrats and Obama do right after the election of 2008 in which the people elected them to do something about the economy. Sure they immediately passed the Stimulus and then forgot about the economy concentrating on healthcare. Since the that has been the perception, Obama concentrating on other things and not the economy.

    To most people the minimum wage has little to do with getting the economy moving. The Keystone pipeline was looked at a jobs creator and it is still pending. The Republican House has sent over 30 jobs bill to the senate in which Reid tabled. There is fault here on both sides. But Democrats will always blame Republicans and Republicans Democrats, that's politics.

    What both sides have not done over the last four years is to sit down with each other with some give and take. Having the Republican House look closely at Democratic job Bills with the Democrats and come to a meeting of the minds what can and will be accepted and what will not and pass the portions that will. The same is true in reverse, the Democratic senate which has the power to add, delete, change amend any passed house bill has taken the route of just tabling them, no action, no debate no sitting down and coming to the meeting of the minds with some give and take.

    The bottom line has been for the Democrats if it is Republican it is bad.
    The bottom line has been for the Republicans, if it is Democratic it is bad.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Yea, the Democrats.

    Harry Ried stacking up over 300 GOP bills on his desk instead of allowing the Senate to vote on them.

    Obama and hia unilateral Presidential decrees. The only policies that have been implemented Federally since 2008 are Democrat policies.

    And it shows.
    Executive orders are fairly limited compared to laws, even if the laws passed have been democratic leaning, there've been very few of them to actually shape the economy since 2010.


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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Liberalism rejected? No ... liberalism in the classic sense is nearly (or perhaps fully now?) extinct. Progressive policies were rejected in this mid-term as the road those policies lead the American people are not satisfactory.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It was a bad night for dems and dem policies. Exit polls show Americans were not happy with the left.

    Was liberalism rejected in the mid term elections?
    No, liberalism itself was not rejected:

    1. The results follow the usual back-and-forth pattern we have seen for decades
    2. Liberalism was a big winner on the referendum front (eg marijuana legislation/medicinal, minimum wage, etc.)
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Pot, meet Kettle.

    Look in a mirror, pot.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    There it is.
    Classic!

    One post and we have the entire administration of SIX YEARS capsulized in a single sentence.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I dont get it either, he's got no cohesive theme to his policies (except distortions/spin) he STILL fails at what he decides to pursue, and yes-Americans still "like" the guy (or so we hear). THAT is a very dangerous precedence because so many horrible things have been allowed because of a slick personality. I dont know about all Canadians, but you are a different species of liberal from this guy.

    And this song is absolutely appropriate.


    Oh dear, the subject of precedent kind of triggers severe anxieties, and should with any American. Let's start with the IRS scandal, how will the Dems react when a Republican president takes it a step further and wipes out a few progressive PACS through the IRS and in the same way transferring blame, the blamed resign and hide behind the fifth with a co-conspirator in the AG's office.

    The list goes on and on, and grows more horrifying the more one looks.

    Just as Living Colour [note the Canadian spelling] is as apt today, the Buffalo Springfield is even more so, "there's a man with a gun over there, tellin' me I got to beware.....Paranoia strikes deep.



    When you read Machiavelli, these words become very frightening.

    And no, I am nothing like any self identified American Liberal I have ever met. But I am in the majority here in terms of over all approach, although I differ slightly in that I am a fiscal conservative. I support strong but fair taxes but demand those funds be spent efficiently and fairly. Like most Canadians like like lots of laws so we know where we stand, but do not want so much enforcement.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think the biggest stat from exist polls was 78% of voters are worried about the economy in the years ahead. The parties can put all the spin on the election they want, but what happened boiled down to "It's the economy Stupid,"

    Mandates, I do not think so unless the mandate is get this country moving again, i.e. the economy. Relieve worries about the future. But the question to Republicans is did they also get this message? Or do they think they have a mandate for their political agenda? In reality the Repubicans really didn't run on anything like the Contract with America back in 1994. they won because Obama fatigue as I put has set in. If the GOP congress concentrates on the economy a bright future is ahead, if not look for another 2006 and 2008 in 2016. Just keep in mind neither party is well liked:

    44% of voters view the Democratic Party favorably, 53% unfavorably
    40% of voters view the Republican Party favorably, 55% unfavorably

    I have said all along that 2014 was a unique election, it was. The party with the lowest favorable rating and the highest unfavorable rating won. That hardly ever happens if it has happened.
    The way I see it the republicans have seen it, but Dingy Harry would never let anything the Pubs wanted a vote on come to the floor. That is a fact. Republicans has always been for a growing economy, whereas the Dems are all about entitlements and free stuff, they have never been about jobs. Dems are hell bent on regulation and the killing of jobs EPA, like killing all the coal jobs and not drilling on government lands and job killing Obamacare, the list goes on and on.

    I suggest the first bill that hits Obama's desk is Keystone, of which the liberals hate so much no matter how many jobs are lost. See my point.

    You quote the parties approval and unfavorably ratings and I don't question the numbers. However what was up for election was Obama's policies that were supported by the democrats that voted for his policies in the 95+ % range. That is overwhelming support for Obama's policies that were clearly rejected by the American people. Yes neither party is well liked but they really hate Obama's policies and thus republicans were voted in to stop him and his party of failure.

    We now have to wait and see what the Pubs pass in legislation that hits Obama deck, I would bet it will be legislation to grow the economy, by keystone, fixing the job killing parts of Obamacare, pulling back the EPA and regulations, etc. If they do a good job they will have the advantage in 2016. People want good legislation and jobs, but for the past 6 years Obama and clan have been a complete failure. Plus they helped the rich get richer while the middle class are making less, they made the financial inequality worse. Obama and clan shoved failure in every category and scandals in the peoples face. The people have had enough.

    Now will the GOP turn things around by putting legislation the people want and put Obama on the hot seat to sign or veto. The GOP now has the wind at their back, if they **** it up they have no one to blame.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Liberalism rejected? No ... liberalism in the classic sense is nearly (or perhaps fully now?) extinct. Progressive policies were rejected in this mid-term as the road those policies lead the American people are not satisfactory.
    I'm extinct?

    ****, when all this time I found being a classic Liberal was a license to get laid.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Oh dear, the subject of precedent kind of triggers severe anxieties, and should with any American. Let's start with the IRS scandal, how will the Dems react when a Republican president takes it a step further and wipes out a few progressive PACS through the IRS and in the same way transferring blame, the blamed resign and hide behind the fifth with a co-conspirator in the AG's office.

    The list goes on and on, and grows more horrifying the more one looks.

    Just as Living Colour [note the Canadian spelling] is as apt today, the Buffalo Springfield is even more so, "there's a man with a gun over there, tellin' me I got to beware.....Paranoia strikes deep.



    When you read Machiavelli, these words become very frightening.

    And no, I am nothing like any self identified American Liberal I have ever met. But I am in the majority here in terms of over all approach, although I differ slightly in that I am a fiscal conservative. I support strong but fair taxes but demand those funds be spent efficiently and fairly. Like most Canadians like like lots of laws so we know where we stand, but do not want so much enforcement.
    Theres a part of me that would love to see the dems get what they gave, but most conservatives/republicans believe in playing by the rules (and that competition is a good thing). Contrast this with the lies and distortions of the left-anything to win, anytime. I wont forget the tactics employed by the left this election when they were cornered. I wont forget the lies of POTUS and the writer of the ACA. The truth isn't necessary. The ends justify the means.

    So what I expect is the republicans continuing to play by the rules while the left continues the tactics its been using for years.

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