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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol !!

    And where would that be ? Where are Liberal policies working effectively ?

    Sure isn't here ? Or Europe, or Japan.

    No, the election was a repudiation of all the hare brained left wing " solutions " and policies that have been pushed down Americas throat since 2008.

    And yes, there are allot of intelectuals who're Liberals. I have some in my Family.

    Their being " intellectuals " doesn't negate the failure of the ideology and the policies they promote.

    They share their views with like minded intellectuals and live in a alternate reality, a bubble of their own making.
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    We don't even make the top 10 on that list, and we're primarily bested by more liberal countries.
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This is a simple and reflexive counter to my comment. Top down, one size fits all, do it or pay a fine or meet g-men with guns isn't the solution. Never was.
    My response pointed out the silliness of your position and you've given me pure hyperbole as a counter.
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    Because central planning has worked so well in the past...

    Actually no, its been a disaster.
    You're currently living in a country that has a record high stock market index and below 6% unemployment because of aspects of central planning.
    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    You're in serious denial. We didn't win. You're kidding right.
    You got a slight majority of a 37% turnout which is a record low. 19% of the population thinks you're the best choice. That seems presumptuous to take as a mandate about anything other than apathy and cynicism.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post

    You got a slight majority of a 37% turnout which is a record low. 19% of the population thinks you're the best choice. That seems presumptuous to take as a mandate about anything other than apathy and cynicism.
    The first time around Obama got a shellacking, as he called it. Now the bomb went off, republican governors control 32 states, the house now holds the most seats dating back to the 1920's, the senate is securely in the hands of the republicans. Further all across the country in local elections more seats went to the republicans not democrats.

    Spin the numbers all you want. People love a president that leads and who signs good legislation, neither of which has taken place over the last 6 years.

    If 19% of the population think republicans are the best choice then I would sure hate to see what they think of you liberals. You lost remember.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    The first time around Obama got a shellacking, as he called it. Now the bomb went off, republican governors control 32 states, the house now holds the most seats dating back to the 1920's, the senate is securely in the hands of the republicans. Further all across the country in local elections more seats went to the republicans not democrats.

    Spin the numbers all you want. People love a president that leads and who signs good legislation, neither of which has taken place over the last 6 years.

    If 19% of the population think republicans are the best choice then I would sure hate to see what they think of you liberals. You lost remember.
    Both parties got a minority of support from the population. The population didn't feel compelled to support either party.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Run the numbers all you want, but all you have to do is look at the vote count. Republicans won hands down over democrats and the win was across the board from governors, to the senate being taken over, to the house gaining more seats and in local state races republicans won the majority of the time. This is not the first shellacking under Obama's failed presidency but instead of a shellacking the atom bomb went off this time. But anything to find an excuse that losing was not because of failed policies.
    I think the biggest stat from exist polls was 78% of voters are worried about the economy in the years ahead. The parties can put all the spin on the election they want, but what happened boiled down to "It's the economy Stupid,"

    Mandates, I do not think so unless the mandate is get this country moving again, i.e. the economy. Relieve worries about the future. But the question to Republicans is did they also get this message? Or do they think they have a mandate for their political agenda? In reality the Repubicans really didn't run on anything like the Contract with America back in 1994. they won because Obama fatigue as I put has set in. If the GOP congress concentrates on the economy a bright future is ahead, if not look for another 2006 and 2008 in 2016. Just keep in mind neither party is well liked:

    44% of voters view the Democratic Party favorably, 53% unfavorably
    40% of voters view the Republican Party favorably, 55% unfavorably

    I have said all along that 2014 was a unique election, it was. The party with the lowest favorable rating and the highest unfavorable rating won. That hardly ever happens if it has happened.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I generally agree, and hope and change did eventually become nope and blame. But Obama is perhaps the most liberal president in modern US history. One thing he has always attempted to do, is make himself appear above the fray, as if he's not interested in getting dirty, all the while he's covered in mud. THAT is certainly fatiguing to me but his policies have proven unpopular as well, and what are they if not "liberal" policies?
    Forcing people to pay insurance companies for coverage is nowhere near what I define as "liberal", nor is amnesty, where a "liberal" solution would first weigh fairness, and people who break the law are well down that list.

    Obama is a Populist/Socialist. His health care reform was a promise first, THEN became policy, THEN became a legislative nightmare, consistent behaviors and result for populism. His policies, frankly are all over the map. His bail out package which seems forgotten was classic corporate welfare, and was a Nixonian lining of the lining of the pockets of those who paid $5000 for a rubber chicken dinner and a chance to glimpse the rock star candidate. Liberals, including me were horrified.

    And in the end, his administration has been the antithesis of liberal, whose core ideals lie in compromise, with the belief it is better to get a thin slice of the pie today than no pie at all, which is the result of six years in office.

    How well he wears the Teflon has baffled me. There is something about this guy that resonates in no way I have seen before. Most politicians would never have recovered from "If you like your plan...." but Americans rushed to forget it. He has to be the slimiest president since Nixon, he has lied, sent the IRS after his enemies and otherwise been Nixon, and he skates clean. Frustrating? It astonishes me.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The answer that I've posted is the only one that you'll get from me.

    Wait and see what happens in 2016.
    Ah. If Hillary doesn't win the White House for the Corporatist Democrat Party, will your response be "wait until 2018"?

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Ah.
    If Hillary doesn't win the White House for the Corporatist Democrat Party, will your response be "wait until 2018"?


    I don't see anyone on the right who has a real chance of defeating Hillary Clinton.

    She might be in the White House until 2025.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    The first time around Obama got a shellacking, as he called it. Now the bomb went off, republican governors control 32 states, the house now holds the most seats dating back to the 1920's, the senate is securely in the hands of the republicans. Further all across the country in local elections more seats went to the republicans not democrats.

    Spin the numbers all you want. People love a president that leads and who signs good legislation, neither of which has taken place over the last 6 years.

    If 19% of the population think republicans are the best choice then I would sure hate to see what they think of you liberals. You lost remember.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unrepresented View Post
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    We don't even make the top 10 on that list, and we're primarily bested by more liberal countries.

    My response pointed out the silliness of your position and you've given me pure hyperbole as a counter.

    You're currently living in a country that has a record high stock market index and below 6% unemployment because of aspects of central planning.

    You got a slight majority of a 37% turnout which is a record low. 19% of the population thinks you're the best choice. That seems presumptuous to take as a mandate about anything other than apathy and cynicism.
    6 percent unemployment ?

    Be honest. Because dishonesty is why the Democrats got their goofy asses handed to them.

    Its 6 percent unemployment with a record low labor participation rate with a marked increase in new PART time jobs.

    Median income levels have flatlined in the last 6 years and STILL haven't returned to 2007 levels.

    Poverty rates are up and the Middle class is shrinking.

    THAT'S what Central planning has gotten us.

    And you're brag about the success of QE ? You're bragging about the Central bank falsely inflating the values of assets ?

    Your bragging about FED policy that incentivizes speculation and NOT investment in our economy ?

    You're bragging about massive monetization of our debt with no economic advantages ?

    You people think your'e the smartest people in the room as your policies crash and burn.

    Its mass delusion for the leftist

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I don't see anyone on the right who has a real chance of defeating Hillary Clinton.

    She might be in the White House until 2025.

    Huh ??

    Allot of Politicians on the right beat Hillary just last week.

    Remember all of those Democrats that ran as Clinton Democrats ? And lost ?

    She even showed up and campaigned for a couple of them and they STILL lost.

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