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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The fatal flaw of liberalism, is that it must sacrifice the freedom of the individual for the state. Thats why even the term "liberal" is a misnomer. When it inevitably comes down to that choice-freedom or the state, the liberal chooses the state.

    This is one of the skeletons in the closet the left needs to deal with. I'd like to think this election brought that home, but I doubt it-especially after the sad excuses Ive heard up to this point.
    You should leave the whole "telling people on the left how they think" to people who actually can.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    There was a time where there were strong black communities being served by black owned businesses, and each black family was an intact family unit, and a prevalent black middle class. Then came the war on poverty. Suddenly, government benefit programs and hand outs became the norm. And now, we have what we have.

    Even if it was segregated, granted unfair, the before is certainly looking better than the after.
    Well, let's see... my numbers:

    http://www.dallasnews.com/news/colum...ack-father.ece

    However, the study found that, compared with white and Latino fathers who don’t live with their children, black fathers are more engaged in their children’s lives.

    That’s in keeping with other studies, such as the recent Pew Research Center study that estimates about two-thirds of black fathers who don’t live under the same roof with their kids still see them at least once a month.

    That compares to about 59 percent of white and 32 percent of Hispanic dads.
    the CDC study shows that most men who live in the same household with their kids are actively engaged in their kids’ lives, especially children under the age of 5.

    Most of those dads play and eat meals with their children daily. More than 7 in 10 black men also bathed, dressed or put diapers on their children, compared with 6 in 10 white men and about 45 percent of Latino fathers.
    But no, I have no reference to share specific to this, but I keep my eye out for one, should I come across it.
    Ah, so you're saying that there is more poverty today than before all of these liberal programs? You're saying that there are fewer black owned businesses today than before these programs? Yes?
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    My answer is not just no, it's HELL NO.

    Wait and see what happens in 2016, when another Democrat will be elected president of the USA.




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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well, let's see... my numbers:

    America and the hurtful myth of the 'absent black father' | Dallas Morning News







    Ah, so you're saying that there is more poverty today than before all of these liberal programs? You're saying that there are fewer black owned businesses today than before these programs? Yes?
    How about the basic premise, which is the war on poverty failed?
    Despite spending nearly $20 trillion since the War on Poverty began, the poverty rate remains nearly as high today as it was in the mid-1960s. Today, government spends nearly $1 trillion annually on 80 federal means-tested programs providing cash, food, housing, medical care and targeted social services for poor and low-income Americans. Clearly, policymakers can’t hide behind reams of programs and billions in spending and declare they’ve done their duty to the poor. Good intentions aren’t enough.


    We need to change the character of public assistance. That means redirecting incentives in federal welfare programs. “Sometimes those incentives encourage dependence, even for generations,” said Robert L. Woodson, Sr., founder and president of the Center for Neighborhood Enterprise, testifying before the Senate Budget Committee last year. Woodson sees firsthand the effects of these programs as he works with community leaders across the country to empower those in need to overcome adversity.
    War on Poverty at 50: How to Fight Poverty -- and Win

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    LBJ promised that the war on poverty would be an "investment" that would "return its cost manifold to the entire economy." But the country has invested $20.7 trillion in 2011 dollars over the past 50 years. What does America have to show for its investment? Apparently, almost nothing: The official poverty rate persists with little improvement.

    That is in part because the government's poverty figures are misleading. Census defines a family as poor based on income level but doesn't count welfare benefits as a form of income. Thus, government means-tested spending can grow infinitely while the poverty rate remains stagnant.
    Not even government, though, can spend $9,000 per recipient a year and have no impact on living standards. And it shows: Current poverty has little resemblance to poverty 50 years ago. According to a variety of government sources, including census data and surveys by federal agencies, the typical American living below the poverty level in 2013 lives in a house or apartment that is in good repair, equipped with air conditioning and cable TV. His home is larger than the home of the average nonpoor French, German or English man. He has a car, multiple color TVs and a DVD player. More than half the poor have computers and a third have wide, flat-screen TVs. The overwhelming majority of poor Americans are not undernourished and did not suffer from hunger for even one day of the previous year.
    Robert Rector: How the War on Poverty Was Lost - WSJ

    And lastly, we keep hearing of stories like this which surely is disconcerting.

    Iyanla Vanzant To A Father Of 34 Children: Why Didn't You Get A Vasectomy? (VIDEO)

    Desmond Hatchett: Man With 30 Kids Requests Child-Support Break

    Man who fathered 30 kids with 11 different women says he needs a break - from child support | Daily Mail Online

    And it's these 'cultural values' that I'm supposed to support and be glad doing so?
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    I am other and American, No.

    Dissatisfaction with the current government was expressed, not necessarily Liberalism. Not enough people made the connection between the evil of Liberalism and the destructive nature of the Democrats. It's was more along the lines of people lost faith in the "leaders" of the dems being able to actually accomplish anything other than to satisfy those "leaders" lust for power.

    Some voters are upset with the direction of the Dems party. Some with only the leadership currently in place. Others with the dems marching in goose step with anything Obama puts out there and not holding him responsible for the things he does. There are almost as many reasons as there are voters out there who changed sides for this election.

    Only if the trend should the trend continue through several more election cycles could a case for there being any abandonment of Liberalism be made.

    Do not believe that this election in anyways actually shows a significant change in voters tolerance to Liberalism. The war is not won so easily. In the 1994 elections, voters gave the Reps the same opportunity as now, they did nothing meaningful with it. However, since then, the Reps have been in some turmoil, The Tea Party has at least shown an willingness to try and to act that was previously missing from the Reps. Perhaps that will make a difference this time, perhaps not.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The answer that I've posted is the only one that you'll get from me.

    Wait and see what happens in 2016.
    I've noticed you've been saying that a lot lately, like wait until the next week, next month, the next midterms, now your out to 2016. Maybe you should go out to 2090 you might snag a win then.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It was a bad night for dems and dem policies. Exit polls show Americans were not happy with the left.

    Was liberalism rejected in the mid term elections?
    Liberalism wasn't rejected, Obamas incompetence and lack of leadership was.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    My answer is not just no, it's HELL NO.

    Wait and see what happens in 2016, when another Democrat will be elected president of the USA.




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    Not sure why you think that. From the looks of things now, Hillary will be the dem nominee. She is not that likeable, and not that great of a campaigner and she looks old and tired. She is beatable.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats a superficial statement. I wasn't asking about 2016, but rather last tuesday. What about tuesday?
    It was a rejection of a "WAR" economy and the NWO.

    Endless war for the MIC and I think the people have had enough. They'll sweep these same people out next election and still not accomplish anything. Repubs and Dems are the same face on a two-headed coin. Bought and sold by CORPORATE AMERIKA.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Was liberalism rejected in the mid term elections?
    I voted left-leaning and no, but fyi, I'm more left of the classical liberal version than what qualifies for left today.

    Imo, the Congress and the President have terrible ratings, and since the president is a Democrat, most of the blame went to the Democrats. I predict the Republicans fail to perform over the next two years, and another Democrat is elected president come 2016. If another Democrat is elected president in 2016, I would give that as proof that liberalism has not been rejected. The voters just hate the current status and are willing to vote for anything else, besides the fact that mid-terms more often are dominated by Republican voters.

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