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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    He said something about marriage to me earlier to mock a view I never presented. What in the hell is that about?
    It suggests frustration to me.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes and it was on the rise before the New Deal. Do you disagree?



    When the facts don't add up to your conclusion, say the facts are wrong with nothing to back it up and yet... here were are. A nation with high literacy rates, practically no child starvation and most indicators of poverty showing that our "poor" have iphones, live in homes and eat well. Yep! Better go back to what came before liberal programs! How was social mobility back then?
    Except the facts do add up to my conclusions though. The war on poverty has been a failure particularly if you consider the unimaginable amount of money that has been spent over the last two generations. There is still massive, crushing poverty in virtually every major city. And the people trapped on these violent, drug infested liberal plantations have very little hope of ever escaping. Add in the squeezing of the middle class and the leftist welfare state can only be objectively viewed as a total failure.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Lol - someone is hurt because their argument that marriage causes poverty was shown to be nonsense.
    What in the ****? Seriously, when did I ever say anything like that?

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It was a bad night for dems and dem policies. Exit polls show Americans were not happy with the left.
    Was liberalism rejected in the mid term elections?
    No.

    People voted decidedly liberal on ballot initiatives. Several states -- even ones traditionally thought of as being quite red -- voted in favor of minimum wage increases, paid sick leave, marijuana legalization, and gun control. Meanwhile, they also voted against personhood amendments.

    Liberal policy is obviously still quite popular. What isn't popular is the leadership of the Democratic party, and Obama especially. Policy and performance are two different things.

    Republicans capitalized on that. Rather than being too forward with their own proposals (which would have obviously ran afoul of the many liberal policies most Americans still support), they ran as simply "not Democrats." That way, they could avoid talking about policy, and just focus on performance. I suppose that's a rather intelligent strategy, given that Republicans aren't terribly popular either -- just slightly more so than Democrats, at this particular moment.
    Last edited by SmokeAndMirrors; 11-09-14 at 10:43 PM.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Like Obamacare,
    Not liberal, unless you count swallowing the health insurance industry's giant Cock of Doom as liberal.

    killing keystone,
    Not in line with his policy of promoting renewal energy, but if non-science denial and weaning off of fossil fuels is "liberal" to you, so be it.
    killing the coal industry,
    Oh, do tell.

    imposing more and more regulation on the banking industry,
    Again, do tell.

    no drilling on federal lands
    See #2, and besides, why should he want that?

    Obama and his open border policy, etc etc.
    "His" border policies are the policies of pretty much everyone before him. Why do you think our produce is always so cheap?

    Some free advice: less am radio, more research.
    Last edited by Cardinal; 11-09-14 at 10:56 PM.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Some of us do but I think many Americans want to have their cake and eat it too so they want a good economy AND socialist policies. Oil and water I know but that is what they want
    Sure, liberals have made our society dependent on government. The more freebies the Dems give the more votes they get. The problem is there is the other side that has to pay for all these freebies and they vote too. However for the moment there are still more payees than takers, when the scales tip we're finished as a leader in the world and as a superpower. Liberals continue to hammer on this country and have been sense WWII so that everyone is dependent on big daddy, as it is big daddy that knows best on how to take care of you.

    The economy will no longer matter as the socialist policies have taken hold of the lives of Americans.
    Liberals - Punish the Successful, Reward the Unsuccessful
    Liberals - Tax, Borrow, Spend, and Give Free Stuff
    Obama's legacy - President Donald Trump

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Not liberal, unless you count swallowing the health insurance industry's giant Cock of Doom as liberal.



    Not in line with his policy of promoting renewal energy, but if non-science denial and weaning off of fossil fuels is "liberal" to you, so be it.


    Oh, do tell.



    Again, do tell.



    See #2, and besides, why should he want that?



    "His" border policies are the policies of pretty much everyone before him. Why do you think out produce is always so cheap?

    Some free advice: less am radio, more research.
    Give it up, you lost we won. Liberalism was repudiated, Obama's liberal policies were puked up in the toilet all over the country and in every category. Now do you get it?
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    He's right though. Poverty had been dropping at a rate of roughly 1% per year for the 2 decades before the lefts war on poverty. Since then its pretty much held steady, and we still have the bloated bureaucracy that defines success as the number of people who need govt cheese.
    Having the rest of the developed world's manufacturing capacity destroyed by war, eliminating your competition, would do wonders for the economy of any country.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Banning fracking completely is exceedingly foolhardy. For those who live on the trucking routes required by it, there must be some sort of compromise or route that can leave your neighborhoods in tact.

    Fracking is the second gold or oil rush, and could easily make the US energy independent. Not only does it burn clearer, with less CO2 and soot than other fossil fuels, it can readily be used to fuel electrical generation, cars and other transportation, not to mention that it's already being used to heat homes and for cooking, the case of a gas stove. Why would you want to limit or ban all those positive uses?

    Those who insist on banning all fracking, you should be the first to do without LNG. Leave it to the rest of us, thanks. Enjoy your cold food and your cold house.
    While I disagree with your assessment of fracking, that probably belongs on a different thread. I think most would agree that anti-fracking is a liberal position, and there were several anti-fracking initiatives that passed this month, in spite of considerable money thrown against it. (Yes, one in California did fail as well.)

    Thus, I used these initiatives as an example that liberalism wasn't rejected.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Having the rest of the developed world's manufacturing capacity destroyed by war, eliminating your competition, would do wonders for the economy of any country.
    Sense when were liberal about jobs?
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    Obama's legacy - President Donald Trump

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