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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    FDR recognized that men needed to be able to provide for their families for their self esteem. .

    I'm curious about this statement. I like FDR's policies. I like the safety net, which has become so much more important as labor unions are eviscerated and as incomes don't keep up with productivity. But is this why he did it?

    I do agree all of us - men or women - feel lousy if we can't provide for our families. It's a piece of our self-esteem. But hopefully people have other things to fall back on in tough times. Being kind to strangers, for example. Having artistic talent, for another.

    Anyway, probably should be taken to a different thread. Just found your comment interesting.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It was a bad night for dems and dem policies. Exit polls show Americans were not happy with the left.
    Just so we know (and sorry if someone beat me to this): Based on election results, did you conclude in 2008, 2010 and 2012 that Americans were unhappy with conservatism?

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Good grief, it's like you make stuff up to validate your point:

    Poverty in the 50 years since ‘The Other America,’ in five charts - The Washington Post



    By race:





    National Poverty Center | University of Michigan



    Yes yes we know, there is no difference between 22% and 11%. Only a 50% difference really.
    Dude, in 1964 the poverty rate was 19%. In 2012 it was 15%. 50 years and trillions of dollar and that's all you got for it. AND that assumes that the reduction in poverty was due ENTIRELY to government programs and not economic growth and opportunity. So like I said, the war on poverty has been a liberal bust. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Just so we know (and sorry if someone beat me to this): Based on election results, did you conclude in 2008, 2010 and 2012 that Americans were unhappy with conservatism?
    That's a good question. Pres. Obama took the popular vote and the electoral college vote, but the conservatives screamed he had no "mandate". This election is also not a mandate for conservatives.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Economic failed? really? when unemployment rate is under 6%, stock market is booming, deficit has been cut in half? What do you WANT?

    Foreign - I'd give a C grade, not fail

    Domestic - not sure what you mean by this. There are so many issues under this.
    shrinking middle class real wages down a trillion in new taxes and record numbers out of the workforce. Dow is up on free money to the wealthy. Oh and that bubble is ready to blow like Mt Saint Helens.
    the rest of the world calls foreign a fail but sure keep that head in the sand.
    domestic, as you say so many issuesm far more than before and evrry one worse than before.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by HogWash View Post
    Yeah, you ARE.
    Thanks for telling me what I think.

    I've already given my post-mortem feelings on the election elsewhere on the forum. Suffice to say, you haven't the slightest idea what the **** you're talking about.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Don't think so.

    It is possible that many of the new seats taken by the Republican candidates were due to dislike for the various methods and policies used by the former occupants of said seats.

    But I don't think it was due to some general dislike for "liberalism".
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by dogtowner View Post
    shrinking middle class real wages down a trillion in new taxes and record numbers out of the workforce. Dow is up on free money to the wealthy. Oh and that bubble is ready to blow like Mt Saint Helens.
    the rest of the world calls foreign a fail but sure keep that head in the sand.
    domestic, as you say so many issuesm far more than before and evrry one worse than before.
    Markets have been opening up and jobs have fled for dirt cheap labor abroad since the eighties, and the eroding power of unions have resulted in the neutering of workers in terms of their ability to negotiate with employers, so I'm not sure what you expect Obama to do about that. Perhaps work for a bill to make it illegal for companies to move factories overseas? Restore unions to their former glory?
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Dude, in 1964 the poverty rate was 19%. In 2012 it was 15%. 50 years and trillions of dollar and that's all you got for it. AND that assumes that the reduction in poverty was due ENTIRELY to government programs and not economic growth and opportunity. So like I said, the war on poverty has been a liberal bust. Sorry to burst your bubble.
    Yes yes, we know - keeping poverty at a level that is historically unheard of in the country's history makes it a bust. Now we know, the poverty rate dropping 50% in 60 years bothers you, but I don't know why? Poverty rates dropped for blacks, they dropped for whites, asians and hispanics. How were the poverty rates before 1964? I'm sure everyone was middle class and the majority of the country had access to education and people weren't literally starving.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes yes, we know - keeping poverty at a level that is historically unheard of in the country's history makes it a bust. Now we know, the poverty rate dropping 50% in 60 years bothers you, but I don't know why? Poverty rates dropped for blacks, they dropped for whites, asians and hispanics. How were the poverty rates before 1964? I'm sure everyone was middle class and the majority of the country had access to education and people weren't literally starving.
    What was unemployment before 1964?

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