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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The answer that I've posted is the only one that you'll get from me.

    Wait and see what happens in 2016.
    I was just thinking that we had a pretty good, and interesting topic going here.

    'Just wait until next time!' Is all you can muster?

    Well . . . . OK. If that's all you can muster.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The fatal flaw of liberalism, is that it must sacrifice the freedom of the individual for the state. Thats why even the term "liberal" is a misnomer. When it inevitably comes down to that choice-freedom or the state, the liberal chooses the state.

    This is one of the skeletons in the closet the left needs to deal with. I'd like to think this election brought that home, but I doubt it-especially after the sad excuses Ive heard up to this point.
    Yeah, there's no other way for the liberalism that we currently have to function, and yeah, they really are going to have deal with it.

    We've seen the results in the black community the results of 50 years of liberal programs, which is to say a worse result than what probably would have been had there not been these liberal programs. Now, it seems, the current liberals want to inflict this on the entire country, and make the entire population dependent on the government the same sort of way.

    I'm really not in support of that. I'm far more in support of everyone having the needed capabilities to take care of themselves and doing so, regardless of the choices that they make for themselves.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    I was just thinking that we had a pretty good, and interesting topic going here.

    'Just wait until next time!' Is all you can muster?

    Well . . . . OK. If that's all you can muster.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, there's no other way for the liberalism that we currently have to function, and yeah, they really are going to have deal with it.

    We've seen the results in the black community the results of 50 years of liberal programs, which is to say a worse result than what probably would have been had there not been these liberal programs. Now, it seems, the current liberals want to inflict this on the entire country, and make the entire population dependent on the government the same sort of way.

    I'm really not in support of that. I'm far more in support of everyone having the needed capabilities to take care of themselves and doing so, regardless of the choices that they make for themselves.
    Are you suggesting that equality of outcomes, after inequality of effort is a flawed premise?

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Are you suggesting that equality of outcomes, after inequality of effort is a flawed premise?
    Doesn't' add up to me. Does it add up to you? I'm thinking not.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It was a bad night for dems and dem policies. Exit polls show Americans were not happy with the left.

    Was liberalism rejected in the mid term elections?
    I don't think it was liberalism that was specifically rejected. I think the party that's been in power for 6 years was rejected, and that happened to be the democrats.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, there's no other way for the liberalism that we currently have to function, and yeah, they really are going to have deal with it.

    We've seen the results in the black community the results of 50 years of liberal programs, which is to say a worse result than what probably would have been had there not been these liberal programs. Now, it seems, the current liberals want to inflict this on the entire country, and make the entire population dependent on the government the same sort of way.

    I'm really not in support of that. I'm far more in support of everyone having the needed capabilities to take care of themselves and doing so, regardless of the choices that they make for themselves.
    Can you tell us what these results are and how they differ from what the black community was like before the programs? I'm genuinely curious to see what numbers you use to make such claims.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    I think a good argument can be made that the electorate has rejected the liberal notion that we have to be mislead to do what's right and the conservative notion that we have to be made to follow their rules to be moral. And the “wait and see what happens in 2016” is very valid. The electorate sees the bad side of the liberal establishment from the last six years and it may well only take two years to again see the bad side of the conservatives who very often act more like liberals when in power.

    This election was just a pendulum swing accelerated by a true liberal who thinks he knows better what is good for us than we do as opposed to a true conservative who is maybe less likely to misrepresent the fact that he/she has the same elitist attitude toward different subjects.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Can you tell us what these results are and how they differ from what the black community was like before the programs? I'm genuinely curious to see what numbers you use to make such claims.
    There was a time where there were strong black communities being served by black owned businesses, and each black family was an intact family unit, and a prevalent black middle class. Then came the war on poverty. Suddenly, government benefit programs and hand outs became the norm. And now, we have what we have.

    Even if it was segregated, granted unfair, the before is certainly looking better than the after.

    But no, I have no reference to share specific to this, but I keep my eye out for one, should I come across it.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It was a bad night for dems and dem policies. Exit polls show Americans were not happy with the left.

    Was liberalism rejected in the mid term elections?
    Raising the minimum wage passed in a few states, and legal pot got passed in Oregon and DC. Liberal policies are fine.

    Fraidy-cat Dem politicians (many of whom were blue Senators in red-to-purple states) got routed, and deservedly so.
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