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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    The Real Reason Republicans Won Big

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    >" This midterm election wasn’t about politics; it was about our nation’s incompetent leadership, gross mismanagement and economic decline.

    As a management consultant and former senior executive for more years than I care to admit, I’ve probably seen just about every kind of leadership dysfunction and management incompetence you can think of, but never all at once and in the same place -- Washington. For example:

    From the president on down the executive branch of the federal government has to be the most impressive illustration of the Peter Principle and inbred cronyism in recorded history. The White House makes the Tower of Babel look like a model of organizational efficiency and management effectiveness. Just about every agency has had at least one major disaster or scandal.

    The extreme lack of transparency, stonewalling and laundry list of cover-ups -- from Fast and Furious and the IRS influencing the 2012 election to Benghazi and the VA’s secret waiting list -- have made a mockery of congressional oversight of the executive branch and constitutional checks and balances.

    The level of divisiveness is off the charts..."<

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And the 'ol ignore list grows...
    I bet it has grown a lot since last Tuesday.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I don't see staying home as an active signal of punishment so much as a sign of being too damn uninspired to participate.
    Same thing when you think about it. I don't blame any of 'em and I think that the dems had it coming to them.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    1. Obama was re-elected in 2012 and hasn't really done anything since to make the mid-term election against liberalism. That would suggest the country is more liberal than it is conservative but that a lot of liberals didn't vote in the mid-term.
    The numbers certainly suggest that. As conservatives were highly energized this year, and voter turnout was between 4%-10% less than 2010, it's fair to assume that left leaning voters comprised the overwhelming percentage of that decrease.

    Although I cannot imagine for the life of me how messages like "all hope is lost" and "just stay home" could possibly dampen anybody's spirits.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Same thing when you think about it. I don't blame any of 'em and I think that the dems had it coming to them.
    Showing up is about being energized, and the need to punish is certainly the product of energy. "Punishment" votes would be left-of-center voters voting for independent candidates with a small potential for being elected, or outright writing in their own names.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If you think Americans have rejected liberalism then all I can say is take away Medicare, SSI, or Social Security and see what happens...
    Once addicted is awfully hard to break the cycle of addiction, especially when it's money.
    On the other hand, perhaps it's a matter of degree, where Medicare and SSI, or Social Security aren't so bad, but to go further than that is.
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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It is more likely that the right wing's definition of a liberal is a myth.



    1. Obama was re-elected in 2012 and hasn't really done anything since to make the mid-term election against liberalism. That would suggest the country is more liberal than it is conservative but that a lot of liberals didn't vote in the mid-term.

    2. Liberal referendums such as minimum wage, legalizing pot, abortion, gun control were overwhelmingly voted for and the conservative ideas, issues and values were rejected.


    This election was very weird. It seems that money won the election, not the people.

    In my state of Utah, the Democrat, Doug Owen only had 100K to campaign with but his Republican contender, Mia Love got a lot of outside money and had over 4 million in campaign funds. Mia Love only won by about 4K votes. That's not an overwhelming victory by any standards. Dems in my area are feeling kinda bad because we didn't donate more to Owens campaign so he could've at least have had a commercial. That might have made the difference and put him over the top.
    ahh ok.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    ahh ok.
    Why start a thread asking a question if that's how you're going to respond to someone when they answer? Why even get out of bed?
    Last edited by Cardinal; 11-09-14 at 02:40 PM.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Why start a thread asking a question if that's how you're going to respond to somebody's answer? Why even get out of bed?
    Theres just many logical shortcomings in that post. To hash it out would require me spending the rest of my morning explaining, it would be a waste of my time. Im just not willing to do that.

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    Re: Was liberalism rejected in the midterms?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Showing up is about being energized, and the need to punish is certainly the product of energy. "Punishment" votes would be left-of-center voters voting for independent candidates with a small potential for being elected, or outright writing in their own names.
    Sure; showing up and getting in there is being energized to participate. I think that not showing up and participating with your team is a way of punishing your team - because you don't like them for some reason - pick one. Pundits and journalists have been saying however that when there is very low voter turnout, as in this case, the Republicans usually win, which is what has happened. The same thing happened to Clinton in '96: he had signed NAFTA and there was some other stuff ( I can't remember now: Lewenski came in '98), and Clinton had to live with it too. Same thing happened to GW (no majority for him) and Reagn had to deal with a split.

    Nothing big to me. Like I said; there's going to be a test now and that will lead the Repulicans into 2016. Hillary I'm afraid is going to be a shoe in, so what she gets will be very interesting.
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