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Thread: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    They did worse than expected in nearly every race. That's not to say the Libertarians have not had a great year, because they certainly have, but Libertarians did significantly worse than polls projected because of last minute fear tactics employed by the two major parties.

    Overall, not too shabby this year as a whole. Many LP candidates got into nationally televised debates, a big win for any third party. Lucas Overby (FL-13) got 25% of the vote...a record for the LP. No candidate (that I know of) got below 2% and many got above 5%. Party registration for the LP is also way up. They are doing pretty good and I think we can expect great things in the future.

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Libertarian Party is but a pimple on the ass of the body politic - a minor irritation that can be readily ignored as being of no real consequence.

    It seems that a whole of people who proudly proclaim their libertarian ideology are more than willing to vote republican every election day. It reminds me of the cheapskate who claims they are a vegetarian but is willing to eat steak when somebody else is footing the bill. Elections are what counts in our political system and when the real stakes are on the line all these wanna-be pretend libertarians are more than happy to be right wing republicans.


    oh - and yes, I know the difference in capital L and a small l. Apparently they do also as they constantly play that lame card instead of having the courage of their supposed convictions.
    Psst, Haymarket. Your hackery is showing.

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Everyone has their view. How many people get their news off the internet or check out all the candidates on the internet? Especially if they never heard of them and do not know they are running. Granted the internet is a helpful tool, but it can't compete against 70 million dollars of political advertising over TV and Radio, mailers, pamphlets, fliers and all the other stuff that comes with it.

    Ron Paul has been known for 30 years or more, he has name recognition and he gets coverage by the national media, he is out there for people to see and and has been for a long, long time. Names like Hunt and Swafford has never been covered by the national media, names that mean nothing to no one. They are unknown whereas Paul is sort of a national icon and has been for many years.

    Huge difference here. Give Hunt and Swafford 70 million and let the Republican Perdue and Democrat Nunn use only the internet and guess who wins? Nunn and Perdue also have the advantage of both party and name recognition.
    Look man, this constant bitching that money is what makes a gigantic difference in politics simply doesn't hold up as well. It doesn't cost 70 million to make a viral video. It doesn't 70 million to make a start up app. It doesn't cost 70 million to create an internet campaign that attracts millions of voters. How do I know? I see people do it every single day on shoestring budgets. How do they do it? They have a product that attracts people. Obama's first campaign was heavily dependent on social media. Sure, he spent a ****load of money but it's entirely acknowledged that the youth vote he received came as a result of his savvy use of social media. Why is it that smaller parties can't seem to do the same thing? Instead of trying to push candidates down the throats of voters with halfass political stances, get 1-2 good candidates and focus money on them. That's how Canadian parties have done it and some have had great success.
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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    What the hell is that supposed to mean?
    You have learned that libertarians haven o chance of winning elections so you have lowered your expectations and rationalized what you see as your only other alternative. It supports what I said in #25

    I strongly suspect that libertarians have come to the realization that despite all their bluster and bravado to the contrary that
    1- they are actually very small in numbers compared to the general population who does not share their views
    2- they have no real chance of ballot success having peaked in previous decades
    3- the Libertarian brand on the ballot is akin to the skull and crossbones on a medicine bottle
    4- they will never be able to complete money wise or work wise for votes
    5- they only shot they have at getting their people in power is to infiltrate the most right wing party available - the GOP - and try and take over the infrastructure from within
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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    Psst, Haymarket. Your hackery is showing.
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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Look man, this constant bitching that money is what makes a gigantic difference in politics simply doesn't hold up as well. It doesn't cost 70 million to make a viral video. It doesn't 70 million to make a start up app. It doesn't cost 70 million to create an internet campaign that attracts millions of voters. How do I know? I see people do it every single day on shoestring budgets. How do they do it? They have a product that attracts people. Obama's first campaign was heavily dependent on social media. Sure, he spent a ****load of money but it's entirely acknowledged that the youth vote he received came as a result of his savvy use of social media. Why is it that smaller parties can't seem to do the same thing? Instead of trying to push candidates down the throats of voters with halfass political stances, get 1-2 good candidates and focus money on them. That's how Canadian parties have done it and some have had great success.
    I agree with Perotista, money absolutely talks- its more than just internet social networking, there are massive funding campaigns by both dems and the GOP and they can raise hundreds of millions in these races and galvanize vast voter drives like telephoning undecideds- that also buys airtime on TV and lots of media exposure in print as well. The LP is a grassroots organization that on its best day can at the most raise tens and thousands of Dollars as opposed to the hundreds of millions of Dollars raised by the big 2 parties, there is no way to compete against that kind of funding. Most senior citizens (one of the largest voting blocks in the country) rarely engage in social media and their vote is far more crucial than the hipster vote.

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Look man, this constant bitching that money is what makes a gigantic difference in politics simply doesn't hold up as well. It doesn't cost 70 million to make a viral video. It doesn't 70 million to make a start up app. It doesn't cost 70 million to create an internet campaign that attracts millions of voters. How do I know? I see people do it every single day on shoestring budgets. How do they do it? They have a product that attracts people. Obama's first campaign was heavily dependent on social media. Sure, he spent a ****load of money but it's entirely acknowledged that the youth vote he received came as a result of his savvy use of social media. Why is it that smaller parties can't seem to do the same thing? Instead of trying to push candidates down the throats of voters with halfass political stances, get 1-2 good candidates and focus money on them. That's how Canadian parties have done it and some have had great success.
    seems to me it is the two major parties who push candidate down the throats of voters with their hundreds of millions of dollars. With the election laws they write as a mutual protection act which ensures they will always have a monopoly on the election system. Canada has different election laws, different laws altogether and they are more than willing to accept more than two parties. Here we are not. Canada is not a good example in this case.

    Tell you what, you give let's say the green party of the United States a billion dollars to spend on the 2016 presidential election and make the Republican Party or allow them to spend only 1-2 million if the Green Party spent that much in 2012 and see which party is challenging the Democrats for the presidency in 2016. Take my word on it, it will not be the Republicans even though they have the internet and viral videos.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreton View Post
    Libertarian Election Results 2014

    Link shows their numbers.

    Clearly noone expected them to win any major races but they did ok in a few. Based on your expectations for the Libertarian party how do you think they did?
    I do not understand this blind romance with the Libertarian Party.

    The facts clearly show it's not a player.

    The facts clearly show it appeals almost exclusively to the single, white, young, childless male attitudinal "philosophy".

    Yes, Hugh Hefner's philosophy would most certainly be aligned with the Libertarian Party.

    Indeed, the Libertarian Party is composed of more than 90 percent males.

    It doesn't appeal to women in general, as it's "freedom, freedom, freedom!" mantra conflicts with the great majority of women's desire for safety and security in the child-raising environment, a desire that is in oppositional conflict with the Libertarian mantra.

    Keeping an "eye" on how the Libertarian Party does each election, as if they are suddenly going to start winning, is the generally sarcastic definition of crazy: doing the same thing, over and over, expecting different results.

    It's not going to happen.

    The Libertarian Party will never be anything more than it already is: a bastion for the single, white, young, childless, male attitudinal "philosophy".

    It's the party of the playboy.
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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    I do not understand this blind romance with the Libertarian Party.

    The facts clearly show it's not a player.

    The facts clearly show it appeals almost exclusively to the single, white, young, childless male attitudinal "philosophy".

    Yes, Hugh Hefner's philosophy would most certainly be aligned with the Libertarian Party.

    Indeed, the Libertarian Party is composed of more than 90 percent males.

    It doesn't appeal to women in general, as it's "freedom, freedom, freedom!" mantra conflicts with the great majority of women's desire for safety and security in the child-raising environment, a desire that is in oppositional conflict with the Libertarian mantra.

    Keeping an "eye" on how the Libertarian Party does each election, as if they are suddenly going to start winning, is the generally sarcastic definition of crazy: doing the same thing, over and over, expecting different results.

    It's not going to happen.

    The Libertarian Party will never be anything more than it already is: a bastion for the single, white, young, childless, male attitudinal "philosophy".

    It's the party of the playboy.


    The first woman to ever get an electoral vote for VP was, in fact, a Libertarian. Fail some more.
    Last edited by TeleKat; 11-08-14 at 03:08 PM.

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    They did worse than expected in nearly every race. That's not to say the Libertarians have not had a great year, because they certainly have, but Libertarians did significantly worse than polls projected because of last minute fear tactics employed by the two major parties.

    Overall, not too shabby this year as a whole. Many LP candidates got into nationally televised debates, a big win for any third party. Lucas Overby (FL-13) got 25% of the vote...a record for the LP. No candidate (that I know of) got below 2% and many got above 5%. Party registration for the LP is also way up. They are doing pretty good and I think we can expect great things in the future.
    While thats a good sign I personally believe the mainstream media is purposely trying to exclude libertarians from having more exposure in the news, many articles have been written that portrays libertarianism in not very flattering terms and at the same time very few articles are being written about LP candidates during elections. Its a conspiracy that I truly believe is happening.

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