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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Political parties are sketchy, they are established many times with the idea of doing good, but soon degenerate to "what is good for the party?" not "what is good for the country?"

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Libertarian Party is but a pimple on the ass of the body politic - a minor irritation that can be readily ignored as being of no real consequence.
    Sounds like you reserve even harsher words for the Libertarian Party than you do the GOP. Why's that?

    I'd be interested to hear your feelings about the Green Party.

    Partisan loyalists are interesting creatures.

    It seems that a whole of people who proudly proclaim their libertarian ideology are more than willing to vote republican every election day. It reminds me of the cheapskate who claims they are a vegetarian but is willing to eat steak when somebody else is footing the bill. Elections are what counts in our political system and when the real stakes are on the line all these wanna-be pretend libertarians are more than happy to be right wing republicans.
    So wait. You relegate the Libertarian Party to an ass-pimple but then pivot to deriding people who don't vote for the ass pimple party? Clearly you're just whipping out whatever insult comes to mind to fling at anyone who isn't a loyal supporter of your Democratic Party.
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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mishiko View Post
    I don't think the issue is that people vote republican, I think the issue is that people don't know what they're voting for. Actually, there's nothing wrong with a Republican candidate so long as their standings are good and valid, just as there's nothing wrong with a Libertarian candidate with good and valid standings.. Who cares what political party a candidate is in? I think people put too much weight on political affiliations. George Washington warned against this.
    I agree.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The Libertarian Party is but a pimple on the ass of the body politic - a minor irritation that can be readily ignored as being of no real consequence.

    It seems that a whole of people who proudly proclaim their libertarian ideology are more than willing to vote republican every election day. It reminds me of the cheapskate who claims they are a vegetarian but is willing to eat steak when somebody else is footing the bill. Elections are what counts in our political system and when the real stakes are on the line all these wanna-be pretend libertarians are more than happy to be right wing republicans.


    oh - and yes, I know the difference in capital L and a small l. Apparently they do also as they constantly play that lame card instead of having the courage of their supposed convictions.
    Do you get some sort of site notification alarm that goes off every time someone starts a thread about libertarians?

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Normally the Libertarian candidates for senate and governor get around 6-8% of the vote here in Georgia. This year their vote totals were way down. But when the two major parties dump in 70 million dollars and the Libertarians are only spending twenty thousand or so, what can you expect. They have no way of getting their message out or even letting the voters know who they are and who is running. It is more word of mouth.

    I voted for Amanda Swafford in our senate election, she received less than 2% of the vote. But unlike the two major party candidates, she wasn't bought and paid for by special interests, corporations, wall street, lobbyists etc. with then tens of millions of dollars.
    That's complete bull****. Social media is quite literally the most ingenious way to get a message out. Obama figured it out. Even Romney's campaign figured it out. Social media campaign cost a fraction and don't require millions of dollars. This nonsense that people can't get their message out in the 21st century is just that. Nonsense. What Libertarians have failed to do is make it appealing. Hell, Ron Paul owes his entire popularity to his internet following. So what stops other parties from using social media to create campaigns attracting voters? Nothing.
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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Sounds like you reserve even harsher words for the Libertarian Party than you do the GOP. Why's that?

    I'd be interested to hear your feelings about the Green Party.

    Partisan loyalists are interesting creatures.



    So wait. You relegate the Libertarian Party to an ass-pimple but then pivot to deriding people who don't vote for the ass pimple party? Clearly you're just whipping out whatever insult comes to mind to fling at anyone who isn't a loyal supporter of your Democratic Party.
    Not at all. The blatant hypocrisy of so many self proclaimed libertarians is worth of insult and derision. We will never have a viable third party in this nation as long as they are only pimples on the ass off the body politic. Wallace and Perot demonstrated that you can create a viable party which can garner votes. But as long as libertarians hate the democrats more than they love their own ersatz ideology - that will never happen.
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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Do you get some sort of site notification alarm that goes off every time someone starts a thread about libertarians?
    I read words on the screen.
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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Not at all. The blatant hypocrisy of so many self proclaimed libertarians is worth of insult and derision. We will never have a viable third party in this nation as long as they are only pimples on the ass off the body politic. Wallace and Perot demonstrated that you can create a viable party which can garner votes. But as long as libertarians hate the democrats more than they love their own ersatz ideology - that will never happen.
    So much anger, so little substance. A separate libertarian party only becomes necessary when the party of limited government and individual rights--the republicans--start behaving like the party of state power--the democrats. Even then, though, there is no reason for a libertarian not to stay within the two party system and run as a republican

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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    So much anger, so little substance. A separate libertarian party only becomes necessary when the party of limited government and individual rights--the republicans--start behaving like the party of state power--the democrats. Even then, though, there is no reason for a libertarian not to stay within the two party system and run as a republican
    That is more of a concession of surrender that the Libertarian Party is going nowhere and your only hope is a takeover of the Republican Party than it is of anything else.
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    re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's complete bull****. Social media is quite literally the most ingenious way to get a message out. Obama figured it out. Even Romney's campaign figured it out. Social media campaign cost a fraction and don't require millions of dollars. This nonsense that people can't get their message out in the 21st century is just that. Nonsense. What Libertarians have failed to do is make it appealing. Hell, Ron Paul owes his entire popularity to his internet following. So what stops other parties from using social media to create campaigns attracting voters? Nothing.
    Everyone has their view. How many people get their news off the internet or check out all the candidates on the internet? Especially if they never heard of them and do not know they are running. Granted the internet is a helpful tool, but it can't compete against 70 million dollars of political advertising over TV and Radio, mailers, pamphlets, fliers and all the other stuff that comes with it.

    Ron Paul has been known for 30 years or more, he has name recognition and he gets coverage by the national media, he is out there for people to see and and has been for a long, long time. Names like Hunt and Swafford has never been covered by the national media, names that mean nothing to no one. They are unknown whereas Paul is sort of a national icon and has been for many years.

    Huge difference here. Give Hunt and Swafford 70 million and let the Republican Perdue and Democrat Nunn use only the internet and guess who wins? Nunn and Perdue also have the advantage of both party and name recognition.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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