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Thread: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    Stick to banks since those are what mainly got bailed out. And there is no alternative to banking.
    I have never met a person on any political spectrum who was against any and all banking.

    Perhaps there would have been horrible consequences if we allowed them to fail. Maybe it was all scare tactics to scam the American People.

    But in my mind there is no doubt: If you are too big to fail then you shouldn't even exist.
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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I have never met a person on any political spectrum who was against any and all banking.

    Perhaps there would have been horrible consequences if we allowed them to fail. Maybe it was all scare tactics to scam the American People.

    But in my mind there is no doubt: If you are too big to fail then you shouldn't even exist.
    I'm fine with breaking up the banks (similar to how monopolies are broken up but not outright destroyed) if that is what you are suggesting (through implications).

    However, to say "**** the banks" and let it all end would have been catastrophic to this country and would have made us plummet from 1st in the world to 10th in the world, possibly way more worse than that.
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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    And the two parties will do anything to keep it that way.
    To a point. Libertarian shortcomings are also largely self-inflicted.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    People, the great majority, they don't want to be "left alone".

    This is the problem with the Libertarian ideology: it's an "I am a rock, I am an island" attitude born from being harmed by others in the past, so its acting-out reaction is to isolate.

    It sees money as its savior from being socially interdependent and business ownership as the goal so one can either be a sole proprietor or hire others to do the managing and be left alone.

    Idealization of money and its rules occurs so as to regulate socioeconomic behavior and thus all interpersonal interaction can be thought of as predictable and rational .. and thereby the Libertarian philosophy deludes itself it can escape being subjected to unpredictable and irrational behavior, a futile delusion.

    The Libertarian philosophy thus over-emphasizes thinking and devalues feeling .. which is why few women find it truly appealing.

    This is why over 90% of Libertarian Party members are male, especially young and emotionally unattached males, as it jibes with that persona.
    Wut?

    I live in NH which was the state identified over a decade ago by the Libertarians as the best state in this country to set up a cohesive movement for Libertarian candidates and philosophy. 20,000 people moved here to set up the Free State Project. I can assure you, it is not only NOT 90% men, it appeals to women from all walks of life - single, married, kids, gay, etc. I am not an active member but I know many people who are and am close personal friends with a powerful member of our state legislature who is an active Free Stater who took the pledge to uphold Libertarian ideals in our state. There were a whole lot of women, myself and quite a foew of our female friends, who were actively involved in his re-election campaign.

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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wut?

    I live in NH which was the state identified over a decade ago by the Libertarians as the best state in this country to set up a cohesive movement for Libertarian candidates and philosophy. 20,000 people moved here to set up the Free State Project. I can assure you, it is not only NOT 90% men, it appeals to women from all walks of life - single, married, kids, gay, etc. I am not an active member but I know many people who are and am close personal friends with a powerful member of our state legislature who is an active Free Stater who took the pledge to uphold Libertarian ideals in our state. There were a whole lot of women, myself and quite a foew of our female friends, who were actively involved in his re-election campaign.

    I don't think you understand Libertarianism.
    No, I assure you I understand libertarianism quite well.

    The existence of a migration enclave changes nothing.

    Also, over 90% of libertarians are White, way out of proportion to the population in general.

    How do you account for that?
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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    No, I assure you I understand libertarianism quite well.

    The existence of a migration enclave changes nothing.

    Also, over 90% of libertarians are White, way out of proportion to the population in general.

    How do you account for that?
    I didn't know I was supposed to account for that. Was I?
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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Clearly. But the point still stands on overall approval rating, and it suggests a 3rd party should be able to capitalize.
    And just how do you propose to build a viable third party - especially the LIBERTARIAN PARTY - when libertarians are more than eager to put on the Halloween costume of the Republican every election day? They seem to hate Democrats far more than the love their own ersatz ideology.
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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    To a point. Libertarian shortcomings are also largely self-inflicted.
    No argument here.
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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I didn't know I was supposed to account for that. Was I?


    Why do you think that over 90% of libertarians are White, way out of proportion to the population in general?

    I just want to know what you think about that, and why you think that's true?
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    Re: How did the Libertarian Party do this election?[W:89]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post


    Why do you think that over 90% of libertarians are White, way out of proportion to the population in general?

    I just want to know what you think about that, and why you think that's true?
    I haven't checked the color of the country's Libertarians. And what's the relevance anyway? And more importantly - why would I care to discuss the racial makeup of the Libertarian party in this thread?
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