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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I don't know. And at the end of the day I don't think it will make much of a difference. Saying that Harry Reid and President Obama "hurt the Democrats" is like saying Mike Shanahan killed the Redskins and therefore firing him solves all ills. My prediction is that going forward Congress will be just as unproductive as it's always been the last eight or so years, and in 2015-2016 people will still be pissed but will still vote for the same people, or different people who do the same things.

    At the end of the day it's the system that's the problem, not any individual or even any select group of individuals.
    Considering the fact that besides the republican gains and the fact that no senate republicans lost their seats and only one in the house of reps did...ofcourse Obama and Reid hurt the democrats. Obamacare is still massively unpopular and Reid's tabling over 300 bills with bipartisan support because he did not like them was a big drag on the democrats. It was as if any representation in congress of people in red states or moderates in blue states was declared null and void. If Obama or Reid did not support the bill, it was going nowhere.

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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    I think Obama hurt the democrats with things like the following.
    “The bottom line is though, these are all folks who vote with me; they have supported my agenda in Congress;"
    “These are folks who are strong allies and supporters of me, and I tell them, I said, ‘You know what, you do what you need to do to win. I will be responsible for making sure our voters turn out.’ ”
    I read that as voting for anyone with a ( D ) after their name was like voating for Obama.

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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The majority of Dems defeated where the moderate Dems in purple and red states that typically took positions against the national party.
    Also...there's really no need to tell Dems to moderate. When it comes to social issues most Dem positions are very popular. When it comes to economic issues...how far different are Dems than Republicans?
    Very much. Bottom line I would bet that you think the government can be more help than the private sector to the economy. Exit polls show this divide clearly where only 20% of Dems think "Government is doing too many things better left to businesses and individuals" whereas 20% of Reps believe "Government should do more to solve problems".

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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I don't know. And at the end of the day I don't think it will make much of a difference. Saying that Harry Reid and President Obama "hurt the Democrats" is like saying Mike Shanahan killed the Redskins and therefore firing him solves all ills. My prediction is that going forward Congress will be just as unproductive as it's always been the last eight or so years, and in 2015-2016 people will still be pissed but will still vote for the same people, or different people who do the same things.

    At the end of the day it's the system that's the problem, not any individual or even any select group of individuals.
    The only reason that would happen at this point is that Obama just Vetoes everything that comes his way and ignores the phone when the Reps call. For the past four years we've had a Congress divided, where bills were passed by one and ignored by the other. At least with one party in control of both houses, you have the possibility of actually passing legislation and moving things along. In truth, Democrats should be just as ecstatic about this election. If you are thinking about what is best for the country, one party in control of congress guarantees we won't have the same gridlock as we have (maybe a new type will develop I suppose...) and You still have the White House so it's not like anything you are radically against is going to get passed. Win Win guys.

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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I think Obama hurt the democrats with things like the following. (snip)

    I read that as voting for anyone with a ( D ) after their name was like voating for Obama.
    All presidents want the public to believe that their fellow party members in Congress support their agenda. (Often they do, but not always.)
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Ah, I see, there's just no such thing as an extreme liberal.
    No they exist, they don't nearly have the same power as extreme conservatives though when it comes to agenda setting. The Democratic approach to governance is much more pragmatic...hence lack of government shutdowns in a Democratic controlled Congress, lack of revolts by factions in the House.

    Judging by your sig, I'd say pretty different. I mean that sincerely. We no doubt view capitalism very differently.
    Probably not nearly as much as you think, but if so...it's not as if my views are shared with the people in control of the party. It's the Timothy Geithner and Larry Summers that mold the thinking when it comes to Democratic economic policies. It's big money that mega corporations that control the ear of the politicians.
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Very much. Bottom line I would bet that you think the government can be more help than the private sector to the economy. Exit polls show this divide clearly where only 20% of Dems think "Government is doing too many things better left to businesses and individuals" whereas 20% of Reps believe "Government should do more to solve problems".
    Well why don't you list some specifics? What should the government get out of?
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I may be a contrarian here - it is "debate" politics after all - but I think Harry Reid helped Democrats rather than hurt them. There's no question that most if not all on the right have a particularly visceral almost hatred of Harry Reid and his leadership style, but I think Democrats in the Senate fully supported Reid's handling of the legislative agenda and his refusal to bring matters to the floor for a vote unless a strong majority of Democrat Senators supported them. Reid protected both Democrat Senators and the President by not forcing them to go on record as opposed to the President or opposed to initiatives their constituents may have supported. He provided them cover and took all the heat himself.
    However that did not help the democrats on election night. That is one of the biggest reasons the democrats lost the Senate. What Reid did was not how congress or representative government is supposed to work.

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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    However that did not help the democrats on election night. That is one of the biggest reasons the democrats lost the Senate. What Reid did was not how congress or representative government is supposed to work.
    I don't disagree it was a factor, but not a negative factor with Democrats. It may have energized more on the right and got out more Republican voters, but that doesn't necessarily mean Democrats didn't support Reid both in the Senate and in the general left leaning public. I'd say that Obama and his administration were far more the deciding factor and Reid actually helped protect both Obama and Senate Democrats with the false narrative about Republican obstructionists.
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To add to the ever expanding list of threads about yesterday's elections, I was watching MSNBC last night (what can I say? It's fun watching Chris Matthews on a night like that) and one of the commentators said that Harry Reid's leadership in the Senate actually hurt Dems running for office by not even letting legislation he didn't like come to a vote, no Democrat could really show their independence from Obama and/or the Democrat party. I thought that made some sense.

    Do you agree that Reid did more damage to his party than good.

    Give me a sec to attach the poll.
    I would tend to think that the effect Reid had on the outcome was negligible at best. People simply don't watch that closely what goes on except those very into politics, and even then I don't think many where swayed by that. Slow recovery, distrust of congress, ebola, ISIS, immigration, those are what people where thinking about when they voted.
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