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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Which both sides do. What I find interesting is how often Republican voters and conservatives are told we cannot win unless we put up our more "moderate" or less conservative candidates, yet, even after last night, nobody really calls on Democrats to be more "moderate" or less liberal. That's not any kind of criticism, it's just something I noticed.
    I think that is a criticism when it comes to a more national race, like the President. I don't think it matters as much how extreme you are when you have so very few split districts, the vast majority of districts are demographically majority red or blue anyway.
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Not enough to make a difference. Too much voter apathy this year.

    Like most midterms, this was the time for cranky old white Americans to show that they don't like that uppity Obama or the taste of their Metamucil.
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To add to the ever expanding list of threads about yesterday's elections, I was watching MSNBC last night (what can I say? It's fun watching Chris Matthews on a night like that) and one of the commentators said that Harry Reid's leadership in the Senate actually hurt Dems running for office by not even letting legislation he didn't like come to a vote, no Democrat could really show their independence from Obama and/or the Democrat party. I thought that made some sense.

    Do you agree that Reid did more damage to his party than good.

    Give me a sec to attach the poll.
    I don't think the average voter gives a rats furry behind about Harry Reid unless they are a Fox addict or Limbaugh loonie.
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Yes badly. Being that obvious as the reason congress did nothing was bad and a gift that will continue to give.

    if donkeys have any sense at all they boot Reid Pelisi Wasserman Cummings Murray immediatly and sprint back to the center.

    but donkeys dont have much sense.

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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

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    Which both sides do.
    I agree. I was just stating the obvious.

    What I find interesting is how often Republican voters and conservatives are told we cannot win unless we put up our more "moderate" or less conservative candidates, yet, even after last night, nobody really calls on Democrats to be more "moderate" or less liberal. That's not any kind of criticism, it's just something I noticed.
    The majority of Dems defeated where the moderate Dems in purple and red states that typically took positions against the national party.
    Also...there's really no need to tell Dems to moderate. When it comes to social issues most Dem positions are very popular. When it comes to economic issues...how far different are Dems than Republicans?
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    I may be a contrarian here - it is "debate" politics after all - but I think Harry Reid helped Democrats rather than hurt them. There's no question that most if not all on the right have a particularly visceral almost hatred of Harry Reid and his leadership style, but I think Democrats in the Senate fully supported Reid's handling of the legislative agenda and his refusal to bring matters to the floor for a vote unless a strong majority of Democrat Senators supported them. Reid protected both Democrat Senators and the President by not forcing them to go on record as opposed to the President or opposed to initiatives their constituents may have supported. He provided them cover and took all the heat himself.
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Spinelessness from within and racism from without hurt the Democrats.
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To add to the ever expanding list of threads about yesterday's elections, I was watching MSNBC last night (what can I say? It's fun watching Chris Matthews on a night like that) and one of the commentators said that Harry Reid's leadership in the Senate actually hurt Dems running for office by not even letting legislation he didn't like come to a vote, no Democrat could really show their independence from Obama and/or the Democrat party. I thought that made some sense.

    Do you agree that Reid did more damage to his party than good.

    Give me a sec to attach the poll.
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I agree. I was just stating the obvious.



    The majority of Dems defeated where the moderate Dems in purple and red states that typically took positions against the national party.
    Also...there's really no need to tell Dems to moderate. When it comes to social issues most Dem positions are very popular.
    Ah, I see, there's just no such thing as an extreme liberal.

    When it comes to economic issues...how far different are Dems than Republicans?
    Judging by your sig, I'd say pretty different. I mean that sincerely. We no doubt view capitalism very differently.
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    Re: Did Harry Reid Hurt the Democrats?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I don't think the average voter gives a rats furry behind about Harry Reid unless they are a Fox addict or Limbaugh loonie.
    While they may not know the name, I think Reid's agenda did hurt the country. To use a sport analogy, he was playing not to lose in the Senate.

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