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Thread: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

    Like some others in this thread, I always do as much research as I can ahead of time and base my decisions on that. For candidates, I pay the most attention to their statements. For state and local measures, I rely mostly on ballotpedia.
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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

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    Another GOP thread continuing their voter suppression techniques.
    The 2016 election has obviously started.
    McConnell is now speaking--he is a masterful politician and probably one of the better GOPs right now--as hard as that is for me to say .
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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

    I can imagine this issue getting worse, not better, with the growing prevalence of mail-in ballots.

    It's the only option in my county.

    At least if someone takes the time & effort to go to a polling place, I'd guess most informed themselves on at least some of the issues/candidates.

    With mail-ins, sit on your couch, fill in the dots, and mail. Little to no effort required....so perhaps less investment?
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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I've always believed that you should always vote and when confronted by names that I don't recognize on the ballot, I usually pick a mix of democrats and republicans. I figure if I pick of 2 democrats and 2 republicans out of 9 family court judge candidates they balance each other out.

    I read a fairly convincing piece this morning in the Washington Post that makes the claim that you actually have an obligation to
    not vote if ignorant of the issues/candidates. The piece says in part:

    Even if you are an unusually well-informed voter, the enormous size, scope, and complexity of modern government ensure that there will be many issues and candidates about which you know very little….

    It’s unrealistic to expect that everyone will achieve a high level of knowledge about every race and every initiative. But if you find that you know little or nothing about a particular race or ballot question, you might want to consider simply not voting on it. As political philosopher Jason Brennan argues, voters have a moral duty to be at least reasonably well-informed about the issues they vote on, because the decisions they make affect not just themselves but all of society. John Stuart Mill put it well when he wrote that voting is not just an exercise of personal choice, but rather “the exercise of power over others.” If you can’t exercise that power in at least a minimally responsible manner, maybe you should not do so at all.


    (Link to full article: On election day, consider abstaining from ignorant voting - The Washington Post )

    So do you vote even if you're not informed?
    I vote on everything...but I am never not informed on what I'm voting on. That is not to say that I have expert knowledge about everything I vote on...but I have enough knowledge to make a voting decision that I am satisfied with.

    But, your thread title refers to an issue that is not reflected by your poll. That is the issue of...what do I think OTHER people should do. I don't care. I do what I think I should do...others are free to do what they think they should do. I think that's a good attitude. If more people stopped trying to tell other people what they should do and just worried about what they, personally, are doing we would be a whole lot better off as a society.
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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I vote on everything...but I am never not informed on what I'm voting on. That is not to say that I have expert knowledge about everything I vote on...but I have enough knowledge to make a voting decision that I am satisfied with.

    But, your thread title refers to an issue that is not reflected by your poll. That is the issue of...what do I think OTHER people should do. I don't care. I do what I think I should do...others are free to do what they think they should do. I think that's a good attitude. If more people stopped trying to tell other people what they should do and just worried about what they, personally, are doing we would be a whole lot better off as a society.
    hmmm......I intended to ask what you would do not what you think others should do. If the wording doesn't reflect that you have my apologies and clarification.
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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    But, your thread title refers to an issue that is not reflected by your poll. That is the issue of...what do I think OTHER people should do. I don't care. I do what I think I should do...others are free to do what they think they should do. I think that's a good attitude. If more people stopped trying to tell other people what they should do and just worried about what they, personally, are doing we would be a whole lot better off as a society.
    Is there some reason you believe that other people SHOULDN'T research and be as well informed as possible before voting? (I realize that wasn't your point, but I think it's an issue worth exploring.)
    I fight against the ignorant, irresponsible, and/or closed-minded.
    This group is the worst enemy of America and its freedoms. It includes, but is not limited to, all Trump supporters.

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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    Is there some reason you believe that other people SHOULDN'T research and be as well informed as possible before voting? (I realize that wasn't your point, but I think it's an issue worth exploring.)
    shrug...

    The flip side of me telling someone what they should do is me telling someone what they shouldn't do. I don't want to tell someone either thing.

    btw, I don't think I said that people SHOULDN'T research and be as well informed as possible...as you seem to think I said.
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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    16 races in total with 24 selections to be made. If you researched every candidate on the ballot that would be 48 individuals plus the 3 referenda.
    Dropping the frankly weird idea of elected judges would sort that problem out then.

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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

    I think not, because a vote impacts others too, in unforeseen ways if you vote but aren't informed. I cringe when hearing someone admit on camera "It's just like throwing darts" as in they just randomly vote. Some of the candidates may also work hard to put forth their vision, and if everyone voted with no awareness, may as well end campaigning altogether and just elect the town drunk

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    Re: Should you cast a vote even if you're not informed on the candidates/issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post

    So do you vote even if you're not informed?
    It depends on the office the candidate is running for. Someone running for city dog catcher I could care less. If I am voting for someone who is making laws then I do make sure I know what that candidate's views are and what laws they did or not vote for.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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