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    Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    The 2014 mid-term elections, overall, nationwide. Now that we have a few hours of hindsight after the polls have closed and the campaigns are done.

    I think a little of both, but I lean to the Dems losing the election in the sense that most ran horrible campaigns. They seemed to take their positions for granted, plus they really didn't have much to with with, and seemed incapable of realizing that and convincing people that they were the ones to move forward with.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    both, kind of a stupid question if you ask me.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    The republicans came in next to last, and the democrats came in second.

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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    I'd say both. The Republicans clearly did a much better job of campaigning. They framed the issues in the way they wanted them framed and they pummeled the Democrats over the head with their major issues (which, at the end of the day, mostly came down to President Obama).

    The Democrats, for their part, ran on...umm...I'm not really sure. It seemed as if one of the biggest campaign themes for the Democrats this year was that they weren't going to vote like Obama. Which is a campaign strategy I'll never understand. Take the Kentucky race between McConnell and Grimes. McConnell ran ad after ad telling us all the reasons Grimes was bad and he also ran ads telling us the good he has done for Kentucky. It was a solid, if unmemorable, campaign. Grimes, however, will always be remembered as the Democrat who refused to admit she voted for Obama, because she was too scared to admit she voted for Obama. When you run from your own beliefs and your own leaders, you don't deserve to win.

    The Republicans ran on a ticket of "we're not Democrats" and the Democrats let them. The Republicans won and the Democrats lost.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Excellent question, and one that I noticed the pundits were also mulling over last night. Was this a "we support the Republicans" result, or was it a "we can't stand the Democrats" result. I think it was a little of both. I don't think the GOP should be sitting back saying "Woohoo we're popular now!". That isn't the case.

    IMO the biggest problem for the Dems was their playbook. The old "war on women" isn't working anymore. The "war on minorities" also isn't working. Obama is also very unpopular, but was it the right decision to distance themselves from him to the degree they did? I don't think so.

    I will also say that the GOP had some stellar candidates this time around, especially when you think about some of the assholes who they ran in previous years, general and midterm elections. They had some really bright, new candidates who didn't make mistakes, weren't radical, and who were very attractive to voters (not physically, just appealing).

    The most noteworthy thing to me were the major pickups in governor races.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Excellent question, and one that I noticed the pundits were also mulling over last night. Was this a "we support the Republicans" result, or was it a "we can't stand the Democrats" result. I think it was a little of both. I don't think the GOP should be sitting back saying "Woohoo we're popular now!". That isn't the case.

    IMO the biggest problem for the Dems was their playbook. The old "war on women" isn't working anymore. The "war on minorities" also isn't working. Obama is also very unpopular, but was it the right decision to distance themselves from him to the degree they did? I don't think so.

    I will also say that the GOP had some stellar candidates this time around, especially when you think about some of the assholes who they ran in previous years, general and midterm elections. They had some really bright, new candidates who didn't make mistakes, weren't radical, and who were very attractive to voters (not physically, just appealing).

    The most noteworthy thing to me were the major pickups in governor races.
    I agree with most of this. In 2012, the Republicans constantly shot themselves in the foot. This time, whatever the reason for the difference may be, the Republicans mostly avoided any overly disastrous and ridiculous comments. Combine that with the fact 6 year midterms historically go against the President, as well as the absurdity of Democrats running from their leader, and they deserved to win.

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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I agree with most of this. In 2012, the Republicans constantly shot themselves in the foot. This time, whatever the reason for the difference may be, the Republicans mostly avoided any overly disastrous and ridiculous comments. Combine that with the fact 6 year midterms historically go against the President, as well as the absurdity of Democrats running from their leader, and they deserved to win.
    Remember some of the morons the GOP ran in the past, like Sharron Angle against Harry Reid? And the guy who made the idiotic rape comments? Most of the GOP candidates didn't make the usual gaffes. Say what you will about them, but generally speaking they ran solid campaigns.

    Grimes is a case study for "what not to do". She made a huge mistake not saying that she voted for Obama, but go on to say "I'm not 100% in agreement with him and when I go to DC I'll be an independent voice for Kentucky" and so on. Not sure if that was her inexperience or what, but she blew that one on her own.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I'd say both. The Republicans clearly did a much better job of campaigning. They framed the issues in the way they wanted them framed and they pummeled the Democrats over the head with their major issues (which, at the end of the day, mostly came down to President Obama).

    The Democrats, for their part, ran on...umm...I'm not really sure. It seemed as if one of the biggest campaign themes for the Democrats this year was that they weren't going to vote like Obama. Which is a campaign strategy I'll never understand. Take the Kentucky race between McConnell and Grimes. McConnell ran ad after ad telling us all the reasons Grimes was bad and he also ran ads telling us the good he has done for Kentucky. It was solid, if unmemorable, campaign. Grimes, however, will always be remembered as the Democrat who refused to admit she voted for Obama, because she was too scared to admit she voted for Obama. When you run from your own beliefs and your own leaders, you don't deserve to win.

    The Republicans ran on a ticket of "we're not Democrats" and the Democrats let them. The Republicans won and the Democrats lost.
    Obama and Reid lost it for the Democrats. Those two thought they could literally RAM their agenda down the publics throat, and when that failed the Democrats in the House and Senate were left holding the bag. They had no successes to run on, and only a mean-spirited reputation to make excuses for. Frankly I think Dems would have been more successful with Romney in office, because he's a hell of a lot more compassionate than Obama and not so conservative they wouldn't get any of their agenda through.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    I think in the nationalized elections for the most part the Dems lost. I think in the state level elections (governorships) the Republicans won. Look at a state like Maryland, I mean look I am a moderate, but the Republican would have had to be a total nut job before I would have voted for a Democrat there because while I am not anti-tax, at some point it gets ridiculous. Same is true for Massachusetts.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    I think it is a little bit of both. Every eight years we begin to see a shift from one party to the other because people are tired of the majority party's ****. Democrats are the majority party, people are tired of their ****, Republicans win.
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