View Poll Results: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

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    8 21.05%
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    13 34.21%
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Thread: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    : The people spoke last night loud and clear, and made it a night to remember! Wow! They want bipartisan cooperation, and I hope the divisiveness is replaced by cooperation so everyone benefits.
    Oh me too, Pol. It may be nice the next 2 years. I really hope so.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    As fickle as our electorate seems to be, I'd say that we are always in a state of trying to get rid of what we have, and trying the alternative, just long enough to figure out that we don't like their policies either. There is a base on each side who vote the same every single cycle, but there seems to be a growing segment who want to just ride the fence.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    The American people lost. They replaced a bunch of politicians they didn't like with a bunch of politicians they don't like.
    “Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I'd say both. The Republicans clearly did a much better job of campaigning. They framed the issues in the way they wanted them framed and they pummeled the Democrats over the head with their major issues (which, at the end of the day, mostly came down to President Obama).

    The Democrats, for their part, ran on...umm...I'm not really sure. It seemed as if one of the biggest campaign themes for the Democrats this year was that they weren't going to vote like Obama. Which is a campaign strategy I'll never understand. Take the Kentucky race between McConnell and Grimes. McConnell ran ad after ad telling us all the reasons Grimes was bad and he also ran ads telling us the good he has done for Kentucky. It was a solid, if unmemorable, campaign. Grimes, however, will always be remembered as the Democrat who refused to admit she voted for Obama, because she was too scared to admit she voted for Obama. When you run from your own beliefs and your own leaders, you don't deserve to win.

    The Republicans ran on a ticket of "we're not Democrats" and the Democrats let them. The Republicans won and the Democrats lost.
    Many demorats ran on a slight variation of that theme saying that "we will no longer be (Obama like) demorats". As I said in the 2012 presidential race - why vote for Obama-lite when you can have the real thing by just not voting?

    The Obama line will still be that it was not his fault that others cannot sell BS as well as he can; if the congress critters won't make the laws that Obama wants then he will rule as if they did. It appears that Obama, the alleged constitutional scholar, sees using a pen and a phone as a viable alternative to following the letter of the law.

    Obama'a plan for immigration "reform": who needs the power to pardon when you have the power to not bring any charges in the first place?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Perhaps a better question is will changing about 20 members within our herd of 535 congress critters make them act in a significantly new way? Will they cede any power back to the states/people (shrink the bloated federal gov't power/cost) or simply try to justify keeping the entire huge federal nanny state with about a 9% change in the mission statement?
    I think you about nailed it. The electorate keep hoping that the government will just leave them alone and when they get in power, Republicans and Democrats, they just can't help meddling unless they are not in power and are campaigning.
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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I agree with most of this. In 2012, the Republicans constantly shot themselves in the foot. This time, whatever the reason for the difference may be, the Republicans mostly avoided any overly disastrous and ridiculous comments. Combine that with the fact 6 year midterms historically go against the President, as well as the absurdity of Democrats running from their leader, and they deserved to win.
    good points

    last time round, the GOP did not manage primaries well so some fringers beat more established candidates (remember the "I am not a witch" twit?) who in turn lost seats to mediocre democrats. This time that sort of crap didn't happen

    we also know that there is always about a 35% core for either side that will vote party no matter what. I voted against John Kasich in 2010 in favor of the incumbent Ted Strickland. Kasich earned my vote this time but the DEM contender was a complete joke yet he got 35% of so of the vote even though his complete campaign was awful. Kasich was hardly a right wing bot and his opposition didn't run any ads in SW Ohio that I am aware of

    what the GOP did was did a much better job in appealing to that 30% that will go back and forth



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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    both, kind of a stupid question if you ask me.
    Ditto.

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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    As fickle as our electorate seems to be, I'd say that we are always in a state of trying to get rid of what we have, and trying the alternative, just long enough to figure out that we don't like their policies either. There is a base on each side who vote the same every single cycle, but there seems to be a growing segment who want to just ride the fence.
    I have a theory on this. Basically...

    One party makes all the promises we want to hear so we elect them. Then, they get in office and do pretty much nothing that they said they'd do. Meanwhile, the other party appeals to our disenchantment and promises us what we want to hear, so we go that way. Then, that party fails to follow through, and we get disenchanted again... rinse and repeat, back and forth, never-ending.

    My biggest frustration is that we keep falling for it.

    "We" being generic, overall, as a society.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Both lost IMO. The people are disatisfied with BOTH congress and the president, so this wasn't a surprise really.

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    Re: Did the Reps win, or did the Dems lose?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Oh me too, Pol. It may be nice the next 2 years. I really hope so.
    Our Governor Kasich looked good last night - pleased but humble in his remarks! I liked that! He's a good man, and he has turned our State around - and he was rewarded by the voters in Ohio.

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