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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Gender discrimination is your guiding compass so you have to be for bigamy.
    Not at all.

    A male marry a woman.

    A woman cannot marry a woman.

    Therefore a man can do something under the law a woman can not do.

    For that discrimination to occur it must serve an important state interest and the discrimination must be substantially related to serving that interest since it would be middle tier scrutiny. I simply don't see an argument that meets that criteria with regards to gender discrimination in our marriage laws.

    How exactly does that apply to bigamy at all.

    A man is not allowed to marry two men. A woman is not allowed to marry two men.
    A man is not allowed to marry two women. A woman is not allowed to marry two women.
    A man is not allowed to marry one man and one woman. A woman is not allowed ot marry one man and one woman.

    There's no discrimination under the law towards either sex in this case. Please show me where it is.

    A bisexual should be allowed to marry someone from each sex
    "A bisexual" is not a gender. It's a sexual orientation.

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Why stop there. How about bestiality or object sexuality.
    For the reason that you probably didn't include any quotes, which are all stating consenting adults. Although object sexuality is long since established. Dildos anyone? But no one is seriously considering marry objects on a legal basis. Animals cannot consent. Now if you found an animal with human intelligence then I would argue that beastiality no longer applies.

    On a side note I'm against polygamy simply because often 1 wife is too many.
    Your bias is showing. Polygamy is multiple spouses. You are referencing specifically polygyny. Polyandry is multiple husbands.
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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?
    How is that logical? What process did you use to determine that? And why is it limited to only 3 partners and not an open number?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    One can also be in a SSM, albeit not legally recongized, without violating any laws at all. The SSM push back is mainly from the effort to change what is legally recognized as marriage without having to get aprroval by majority vote (or constitutional amendment) but by simply getting a "wise judge" to say what the state (federal?) law "really must be".

    When one looks at our nation's constitution they find that amendment #14 was NOT seen as sufficient to give women or black men the right to vote and that caused the addition of amendments #15 and #20 - NOT simply the opinion if a "wise judge" saying that amendment #14 really makes those individual rights become the law of the land.
    First what I was noting that while one can be in a Polygamous marriage, an OSM or a SSM, both in the legal sense as well as outside of the legal sense, one cannot be a bigamist outside of the legal sense. One can get married without involvement of the law. One can get multiple marriages (as opposed to a polygamous marriages) outside of the law. But they are not a bigamist u less they get multiple legal marriages.

    Secondly, many states are passing SSM in the legislature, so majorities are winning out in those states.
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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?
    Sure, but you can only have one of each. If you want a wife and to marry your best bud, then you should be able to. Just no two of the same sex.

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    I don't care if we legalize polygamy as long as they don't get more financial/tax benefits (or fewer) than couples. To me, equality in marriage means....equality.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Do you really mean polygamy? Even in a polygamous relationship each partner is in only one marriage at a time, although they may be not be the only man/woman in that marriage. Polygamy is about removing the limit of two marriage partners while bigamy permits one to be an multiple marriages at the same time. SSM seeks to keep the two partner limit but to (only) remove the opposite gender requirement for the partners, while bigamy seeks to allow marriage partnerships to overlap.
    Thanks for the clarification. I botched that one!
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    WTF does someones views on homosexual "marriage" have to do with Polygamy?

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    Apparently, now that 'the geighs' can marry, some people consider marriage...the wild wild West! Anything and anyone will now be considered....the 'slippery slope' at its finest! lol
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    He mentioned taking young girls as sexual partners and wives. I wasn't talking about 16 year olds getting their parents' permission to marry.
    First of all, why not? Should a 16 year old be having sex/married to some old guy mainly because her religion says that's right, mainly due to a bunch of old perverts who simply want many young wives.

    But also, some states allow the permission for 14 or 15 year olds as well. Some states waive age of consent laws with marriage.
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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    Gender discrimination is your guiding compass so you have to be for bigamy. A bisexual should be allowed to marry someone from each sex or they are being discriminated against right?
    That is not how bisexuality works. Instead it works similar to someone who is attracted to people of more than one race. Just because a person would be willing to marry someone of any race or either sex doesn't mean those people want to marry multiple people at the same time. Those who want to be in a group marriage are generally polyamorous.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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