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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's illegal. I wasn't talking about illegal activity.
    Polygamy is illegal in all states and bigamy is in some.

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Polygamy is illegal in all states and bigamy is in some.

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    To be more specific and to the point - we're talking "consenting adults" here.

    Not:

    1) children
    2) dead people
    3) animals
    4) garden utensils
    5) automobiles
    6) bank accounts
    ...................................an so on.

    Consenting adults.

    And lest people forget, we could also be talking about a woman with multiple husbands.

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Polygamy is illegal in all states and bigamy is in some.

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    Marriage is legal in 50 states. Marriage with 9 year olds isn't. I think you know what I meant.
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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    No option for the not pro ssm and not pro bigamy.

    I will say that making the wrong decision on SSM doesn't mean that we should then also make the wrong decision on bigamy.



    However, it is also worth pointing out that increasingly we no longer have the ability to make decisions on what constitutes marriage. So what the "sovereign" people think is irrelevant. They have a "right" now, and polygamists can claim First Amendment justification as well.

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisshort View Post
    So a marriage between same sex couples is now legal across the land so the logical nest issue is bigamy.If the same sex can be married why not multiple partners? It sees like the term marriage and family are now open ended terms and are being redefined daily so if you are for gay marriage you surly must be for bigamy too I would think. Or are you?
    Not at all.

    My reasoning for supporting same sex marriage is my personal belief that our marriage laws are a violation of the Equal Protection Clause on the basis of gender discrimination.

    I've still yet to be presented with an argument for bigamy that convinces me it'd fall under an Equal Protection Clause protection. I see no way it'd fit into a middle or upper tier category, which would make it the lowest tier at best which is a very low threshold to jump through. Considering the SIZABLE structural change...instead of language change...that would have to occur by allowing those who are married to marry other people and the multitude of new legal issues that would cause, I think the state has a legitimate interest in not moving forward with such.

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Not at all.

    My reasoning for supporting same sex marriage is my personal belief that our marriage laws are a violation of the Equal Protection Clause on the basis of gender discrimination.

    I've still yet to be presented with an argument for bigamy that convinces me it'd fall under an Equal Protection Clause protection. I see no way it'd fit into a middle or upper tier category, which would make it the lowest tier at best which is a very low threshold to jump through. Considering the SIZABLE structural change...instead of language change...that would have to occur by allowing those who are married to marry other people and the multitude of new legal issues that would cause, I think the state has a legitimate interest in not moving forward with such.
    Bigami is consenting adults and it seems to me the disruption to the state is less than same sex marriage. Of course now bigami could mean a bi sexual married to a man in one union and a woman in another union so in that respect you have a point."Marriage" is a word that has lost its original meaning and everything about it is now up for grabs. If anything goes in marriage now why should their be a one marriage rule?

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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    WTF does someones views on homosexual "marriage" have to do with Polygamy?

    I don't see anything wrong with Polygamy myself, not that I intend to do it, as long as it is between men and women who are mature enough to actually make that choice, it's no business of mine. Hell, the only reason I'm really against the homosexuals on the issue is because the won't STFU and let others live their lives the way they choose but instead, insist on rubbing everyones face in it and calling people names over it.

    At least Polygamy is a natural order for sexual behavior.
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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    That's illegal. I wasn't talking about illegal activity.
    Not completely. Many states still allow those under 18 to marry with their parents' permission. If the parents have raised their children to believe that they should marry young (teenagers) to a man that their parents approve of or picks them, then the parents are likely to also give legal permission for the marriage in that case as well, since they believe it is right.

    This is one of several reasons why I believe only those 18 and older should be allowed to legally marry, and parents shouldn't be able to sign off on a lower age.
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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not completely. Many states still allow those under 18 to marry with their parents' permission. If the parents have raised their children to believe that they should marry young (teenagers) to a man that their parents approve of or picks them, then the parents are likely to also give legal permission for the marriage in that case as well, since they believe it is right.

    This is one of several reasons why I believe only those 18 and older should be allowed to legally marry, and parents shouldn't be able to sign off on a lower age.
    He mentioned taking young girls as sexual partners and wives. I wasn't talking about 16 year olds getting their parents' permission to marry.
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    Re: Should bigamy be legal

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    Philosophically speaking I don't have a problem with multiple-partner marriages on the condition that each individual has to accept the new dynamic. In other words person "A" legally marries person "B". A year later person "A" marries person "C" without the knowledge or consent of person "B". That establishes a legal relationship between "A" and "B" and "A" and "C" but no ties between "B" and "C". Think of community property. "A" owns 50% and "B" owns 50%. If "A" then legally marries "C" does that mean (s)he has 0% and "B" retains 50% and "C" acquires "50%"? (Not likely.) Or does "A", "B", and "C" then have 33.3% with "B" having no say in the matter.

    So in the event of multi-partner legal marriaces "A" & "B" & "C" need to be all legally married to each other with all parties agreeing.


    From a legal standpoint (government rights, benefits, and responsibilities) there are arguments that such a situation creating a 1:N, instead of a 1:1 relationship, creates a complexity that our family law is not ready to handle.



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