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    2 2.38%
  • when Republicans oppose SSM

    1 1.19%
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    34 40.48%
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Thread: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    I do not believe that one is bigoted who truly believes in an issue from a religious standpoint. Religion (particularly Christianity) requires a leap of faith- it is not necessary or possible to resolve differences of opinion on religion factually. Because it is based in faith, rather than fact.

    For example, if a "gay gene" was discovered- similar to a gene that determines hair color or some other trait that a person can not control, I would not expect a fundamentalist Christian to change their stance on homosexuality or gay marriage. These types of facts don't matter, because a person of fundamentalist Christian faith believes the Bible to be the infallible word of God, notwithstanding any secular facts to the contrary.

    You may believe what you believe. It is ok with me as a gay man. It is not bigoted, IMO. It is your firmly held belief.
    "leaps of faith" are still bigotry. White supremacists say the very same thing about their god wanting the races separate, so he put them in separate locations. Are they not bigots?

    Willful ignorance of facts is still a choice and therefore can be bigoted, whether under the guise of religion or the "ick factor" or some other nonsense. Resistance to marriage equality unfailingly boils down to "i'm better than them," so yeah that is the epitome of bigotry.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post


    I donít care.



    No. Nazi Germany always sticks out in my mind as a majority that dictated away the rights of a minority.

    3) You still havenít answered my question.
    Oh my! America in 2007 was full of nazis then, according to you!

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post


    Which is exactly why you never rely on the ďmorals of the majorityĒ! In the1800s it was owning slaves, in the 1900s it was kill the Jews, gays, morons and / or anyone who opposed Socialism / Communism. Today itís killing babies in the womb (although they possess all the qualities of life).

    You believe that morality can be found within man.

    In canít because man is a flawed moral creature as history so amply demonstrates.
    What would you suggest we rely on then? Can't be morals of any religion without being a theocracy, and there are no objective morals. The only other options are the morals of a single individual or small group, which would be basically a monarchy or oligarchy or something like these, where a few people get to tell everyone else how they should live.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    What would you suggest we rely on then? Can't be morals of any religion without being a theocracy, and there are no objective morals. The only other options are the morals of a single individual or small group, which would be basically a monarchy or oligarchy or something like these, where a few people get to tell everyone else how they should live.
    And since people have found religious reasons to do the most horendous things.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    And since people have found religious reasons to do the most horendous things.
    That too. There simply isn't a perfect system for governing, but what we have is the best we can think of so far and although it certainly has its flaws, eventually many get worked out.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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