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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Logicman View Post
    Tell it to somebody who buys into your folly.
    I could have responded to several of your posts with an exact quote of what you just said.



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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by the mark View Post
    you can't link to his proof, but when god shows up to bitch-slap the truth into you you'll know then, oh yes.



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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    People already do believe it is morally okay, ethical to kill gay people (Uganda anyone? laws we have had in the past regarding homosexuals).
    So you’re making my argument?

    Really?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The key here is that we have the morals of the majority, the vast majority that feel it is wrong.
    “Morals of the majority”?

    Are you serious?

    Oh, please tell me about the “morals of the majority” in Nazi Germany!

    And I can’t wait to hear about the “morals of the majority” (or even the minority depending on the state) during the slavery days of the Old South!

    “Morals of the majority”…laughably stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    All said and done, that is what our laws come down to, what morals we are willing to uphold as law and enforce.
    You better hit your knees and pray that our laws are based upon much more than that or we will end-up no better than Nazi Germany or the Old South.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    All your examples are proving that morality is subjective, morals and ethics are not universal.
    Which is, once again, why you should hit your knees and pray that our laws be based upon something far greater than the “morals of the majority”.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post


    So you’re making my argument?

    Really?

    “Morals of the majority”?

    Are you serious?

    Oh, please tell me about the “morals of the majority” in Nazi Germany!

    And I can’t wait to hear about the “morals of the majority” (or even the minority depending on the state) during the slavery days of the Old South!

    “Morals of the majority”…laughably stupid.

    You better hit your knees and pray that our laws are based upon much more than that or we will end-up no better than Nazi Germany or the Old South.

    Which is, once again, why you should hit your knees and pray that our laws be based upon something far greater than the “morals of the majority”.
    This was a pointless post. Those places you mentioned from the past also go to show that moralities are different for different times and/or places.

    And I don't need to "hit my knees" for anything. I know what set of morals I am willing to fight for and against. We are better than those places because enough people have changed those moralities of the past. It could happen again, but that is why people need to fight against it, and no one needs religion to keep their morals "straight". Religion helps some people, but also has been used against people as well. Look at the OT and see how many people it says should die due to various "sins". Look at Westboro Baptist group.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This was a pointless post. Those places you mentioned from the past also go to show that moralities are different for different times and/or places.
    An yet you’re ignoring my previous post which details many horrors that are happening today. Your failure to grasp that the “morals of the majority” can change so quickly that they simply do not exist.

    And yet you prefer to cling to your own petty ideas about morality and do so at the expense of others. After all, what do you care if women have acid thrown in their face or are gang-raped only to be murdered by their own family for “dishonoring” them? What do you care if females have their genitals cut-off simply because they are female or have their breast cut-off so they can’t feed their newborns. These atrocities are happening today but you don’t want to recognize these horrors (from my post no. 287) because they prove that your “morals of the majority” are as petty and fundamentally stupid and your insistence on clinging to them.

    If there is a not a standard for our morals then there are only opinions.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post


    An yet you’re ignoring my previous post which details many horrors that are happening today. Your failure to grasp that the “morals of the majority” can change so quickly that they simply do not exist.

    And yet you prefer to cling to your own petty ideas about morality and do so at the expense of others. After all, what do you care if women have acid thrown in their face or are gang-raped only to be murdered by their own family for “dishonoring” them? What do you care if females have their genitals cut-off simply because they are female or have their breast cut-off so they can’t feed their newborns. These atrocities are happening today but you don’t want to recognize these horrors (from my post no. 287) because they prove that your “morals of the majority” are as petty and fundamentally stupid and your insistence on clinging to them.

    If there is a not a standard for our morals then there are only opinions.
    Horrors have happened throughout history. We simply find out about more of them now. Do you think the past was full of peace and prosperity and everyone being treated so well and no one ever killed anyone?
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Horrors have happened throughout history. We simply find out about more of them now. Do you think the past was full of peace and prosperity and everyone being treated so well and no one ever killed anyone?
    Vandalism comes from the Vandals and that is really unfair as the Vandals greeted the occupants of cities that they sacked with compassion and they planted lots of flowers too... then this term Vandalism becomes a negative thing?? UNFAIR.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Horrors have happened throughout history. We simply find out about more of them now. Do you think the past was full of peace and prosperity and everyone being treated so well and no one ever killed anyone?
    Of course not, so please continue to tell me about your "morals of the majority".
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Baron View Post
    Of course not, so please continue to tell me about your "morals of the majority".
    What do you wish to know about them? Owning slaves did not violate the morals of the majority in the past, which is why it was legal. Evidence that morals are subjective and change over time. We, as a country, have narrowed down legal morality to certain general principles, for the most part, based mainly on if something causes harm (although there are some exceptions to this). Harm can be relative though. And we certainly have some areas to work on.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    What do you wish to know about them? Owning slaves did not violate the morals of the majority in the past, which is why it was legal.
    Which is exactly why you never rely on the “morals of the majority”! In the1800s it was owning slaves, in the 1900s it was kill the Jews, gays, morons and / or anyone who opposed Socialism / Communism. Today it’s killing babies in the womb (although they possess all the qualities of life).

    You believe that morality can be found within man.

    In can’t because man is a flawed moral creature as history so amply demonstrates.
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