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Thread: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    when you mean harmed, ...you also mean forcing your ideas,a way of life on another person dont you........i am sure you do, but i just thought i would pose the question any way.
    No, if someone enjoys a gentile spanking, who am I to stand in the way?
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    No, if someone enjoys a gentile spanking, who am I to stand in the way?
    not what i mean, i am sure you would agree that if a person has a belief in what he does is OK, but another person thinks it wrong......the former cannot impose that belief on the latter.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Well, didn't expect to see someone supporting bigotry.
    I don't think that someone following their religious opinions with respect to marriage is bigotry. I think forcing someone else's views about marriage on those with religious objections violates the separation of church and state and approaches fascism. I think the state has the power and responsibility to define marriage but individuals should have the ability to set their own moral standards. I don't think Christian bakers should be forced to bake cakes for gay weddings or photographers be forced to photograph occasions they morally object to. That's a far cry from the power of the state.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    I oppose the government granting SSM.


    However I also oppose the government granting heterosexual marriages due to my belief that the government should not have the ability nor power to grant or deny any marriage.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I don't think that someone following their religious opinions with respect to marriage is bigotry. I think forcing someone else's views about marriage on those with religious objections violates the separation of church and state and approaches fascism. I think the state has the power and responsibility to define marriage but individuals should have the ability to set their own moral standards. I don't think Christian bakers should be forced to bake cakes for gay weddings or photographers be forced to photograph occasions they morally object to. That's a far cry from the power of the state.
    That's nice (and bigoted), but you clearly supported any bigotry whatsoever in your post:

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    In a free country, on issues of sexual morality, each individual should be free to believe as they wish as long as those beliefs don't involving harming others,
    That would include non-religious bigotry.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    when you mean harmed, ...you also mean forcing your ideas,a way of life on another person dont you........i am sure you do, but i just thought i would pose the question any way.
    No one is doing that. It is just a retarded talking point.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    not what i mean, i am sure you would agree that if a person has a belief in what he does is OK, but another person thinks it wrong......the former cannot impose that belief on the latter.
    In a perfect world.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No one is doing that. It is just a retarded talking point.
    only from your point of view.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    In a perfect world.
    then should be try to prevent such a thing from happening?

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's nice (and bigoted), but you clearly supported any bigotry whatsoever in your post:



    That would include non-religious bigotry.
    Just because you don't agree doesn't make it bigotry. Everyone discriminates, which is different than bigotry. I avoid rap concerts and tractor pulls. I discriminate. I don't know enough about you but I'm certain you discriminate as well. It's difficult to avoid based on personal preference. I'm not arguing for racial, ethnic or religious discrimination. That is and should be illegal. What I am saying is that we should be free to associate with who we wish. Likewise it's appropriate for the religious to make those associations based on their values.

    Personally, I'm not religious. If I were a baker and a gay couple wanted a cake, I'd wrap them in fondant and plant a candle on top. I support those who don't feel as I do however.
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