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    2 2.38%
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    1 1.19%
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    34 40.48%
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Thread: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Which ones are examples of bigotry?

    Can someone please fix the spelling in the question? Thank you.
    Being sane does not make one a bigot.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Being sane does not make one a bigot.
    You don't have to be insane to support SSM. This is an anti-hyperbole thread.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    You don't have to be insane to support SSM. This is an anti-hyperbole thread.
    You also don't have to be insane to believe the world is flat.

    But both are an insane sort of belief, even if the people holding them aren't necessarily so.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Being against SSM is to be a bigot. Fact.
    A person might favor same-sex marriage in his own state, and yet defend the right of people in other states not to allow it. I am not particularly concerned whether my own state authorizes same-sex marriage, or whether some other state does, or not. My concern is their right to decide the issue for themselves, and not to have a Supreme Court decision cook up a new constitutional "right" and force it on the whole country. The Court did that forty years ago in Roe v. Wade, which every constitutional scholar in the U.S. knows is one of the most arbitrary, irrational, result-oriented decisions the Supreme Court has ever made.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    You also don't have to be insane to believe the world is flat.

    But both are an insane sort of belief, even if the people holding them aren't necessarily so.
    Wait....you're saying that support of SSM is an insane position?
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    I know it's hard for some to grasp, but it is possible that some people simply disagree with SSM and bigotry has nothing to do with it. Mind blowing, I know.

    Personally, I don't give a crap, either way. Make it legal, keep it illegal, whatever, just make a decision so I know what to expect.

    What I did find disingenuous, though, was the timing and quickness of Obama's transformation. Not the notion that he changed his mind in and of itself, but the timing and suddenness (during an election campaign). Yeah, that comes off as real sincere. /sarcasm
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Wait....you're saying that support of SSM is an insane position?
    Yes, I am.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    A person might favor same-sex marriage in his own state, and yet defend the right of people in other states not to allow it. I am not particularly concerned whether my own state authorizes same-sex marriage, or whether some other state does, or not. My concern is their right to decide the issue for themselves, and not to have a Supreme Court decision cook up a new constitutional "right" and force it on the whole country. The Court did that forty years ago in Roe v. Wade, which every constitutional scholar in the U.S. knows is one of the most arbitrary, irrational, result-oriented decisions the Supreme Court has ever made.
    The Court also did so with Loving, yet few if any say Loving was the SCOTUS cooking up a new "right" and forcing it on the whole country, which at this point in time is fewer people than when it was the Loving decision.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Yes, I am.
    I disagree with you on this, then.

    Edit: Although it might be more accurate to say I see no point in opposing it.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The Court also did so with Loving, yet few if any say Loving was the SCOTUS cooking up a new "right" and forcing it on the whole country, which at this point in time is fewer people than when it was the Loving decision.
    What are you claiming the Court did in Loving v. Virginia? No one claims the Court was cooking up a new right in that case, for the simple reason that it was not doing anything of the kind.

    The Lovings had gone to D.C. to get married and then returned to live in Virginia as man and wife. They were then convicted under state laws that made what they had done a crime. The Court held Virginia's antimiscegenation laws unconstitutional because it found they were specifically designed to enforce white supremacy--which placed it right in the bulls-eye of the state actions the Fourteenth Amendment was meant to target.

    Loving was not a very difficult decision. The Court had recognized in earlier cases that the right of one man and one woman to marry is fundamental, and any law that made that act a crime solely because of the race of the actor was obviously unconstitutional.

    The proponents of the homosexual agenda are trying to ride on the coattails of the black civil rights movement, apparently hoping that no one understands the Constitution well enough to see how nonsensical their claims are. The Fourteenth Amendment was no more meant to make homosexuals a specially protected class than it was to do that with seniors, the poor, or the left-handed.

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