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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    It depends on why they oppose it. If its because they see gays and lesbians as deviants, then yeah its bigotry.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yeah, you said it better than I did. I used the example of duck hunters but when applying it to politics or a law, it's the same thing. I think we overuse "bigotry" and that's wrong. People have reasons to oppose (insert something here), and their reasons may be unpopular, but that doesn't make them bigots by the definition of the word that I always knew.

    People are stubborn on both sides of an issue, too.
    One of those unpopular points I have made rather repeatedly is that calling people bigots for opposing SSM is not helpful. Not only is it not necessarily true(and there is no way to know usually if it is true), not only does it overuse and abuse the term(much like racist/anti-semite are so badly overused), but insulting the people you are trying to sway with your arguments does not usually work.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    In a free country, on issues of sexual morality, each individual should be free to believe as they wish as long as those beliefs don't involving harming others, unless they want to be harmed in a friendly sort of way.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Well, first we have to define bigotry: Bigotry | Define Bigotry at Dictionary.com



    So what we can see from that is that people can oppose SSM for bigoted reasons, or for reasons that are not bigoted. Opposition to SSM itself is not bigotry. So your poll question is unanswerable.
    If it isn't necessarily bigotry, you have to give people the benefit of the doubt.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    In a free country, on issues of sexual morality, each individual should be free to believe as they wish as long as those beliefs don't involving harming others, unless they want to be harmed in a friendly sort of way.
    when you mean harmed, ...you also mean forcing your ideas,a way of life on another person dont you........i am sure you do, but i just thought i would pose the question any way.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    If it isn't necessarily bigotry, you have to give people the benefit of the doubt.
    I tend to agree with that.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    In a free country, on issues of sexual morality, each individual should be free to believe as they wish as long as those beliefs don't involving harming others,
    Well, didn't expect to see someone supporting bigotry.

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    It depends on why they oppose it. If its because they see gays and lesbians as deviants, then yeah its bigotry.
    i've yet to hear any other reason

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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    It depends on why they oppose it. If its because they see gays and lesbians as deviants, then yeah its bigotry.
    As an objective fact, “gays and lesbians” are deviants.

    The normal, proper, common manner of human coupling, as practiced by (to use the most generous credible statistics toward homosexuality) more than 90% of the human population, is male with female. It is how our biology is engineered to work, it is how we are suited to form families and societies. By definition, anyone who deviates from this is a deviant. That's what the word “deviant” means—one who deviates from what is normal.

    Of course, to those of you on the wrong, recognizing the plain, obvious truth, is “bigotry”. Really, that's the essential core of “Political Correctness”, to condemn truth as bigotry or some other similarly subversive form of thought, and on that basis, to condemn those who recognize or speak any truth that is thus deemed subversive.
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    Re: Is it bigotry when someone opposes SSM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    One of those unpopular points I have made rather repeatedly is that calling people bigots for opposing SSM is not helpful. Not only is it not necessarily true(and there is no way to know usually if it is true), not only does it overuse and abuse the term(much like racist/anti-semite are so badly overused), but insulting the people you are trying to sway with your arguments does not usually work.
    Well said, Redress.
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