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    Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    Anybody watch this last night?

    Food star Anthony Bourdain tells of a ‘different Iran’ than expected


    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/pers...-expected.html


    Not surprising, but also highly informative.

    Beer drinking, pizza eating, American muscle car loving, family oriented people just trying to live their lives to the best of their abilities.

    Also - NOT hating America, although not forgetting that America supported Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war which included Iraq using some pretty hideous weapons on the Iranians.

    I especially liked the one scene where Anthony was having a HUGE formal lunch with a family and the father specifically stated "we are not the axis of evil".

    Someone then found out about his producer’s birthday.“The entire restaurant sang “Happy Birthday” to him and presented him with a cake.”
    Bourdain was in awe at the stark difference between the Iran he had been led to believe and the Iran where an entire restaurant sang “Happy Birthday” to stranger.
    So I'm wondering what your thoughts are regarding the show.

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    Re: Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    Boudain's shows are awesome, he has nail biting wit combined with some very good insight and mouth watering food. I havent seen this one yet but I plan to as soon as I finish watching all of his No Reservations episodes.

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    Re: Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    It should come as no surprise that Bourdain is able to show that there are many MANY Iranian people that are just people. Not world hating ready to start the apocalypse evil minions of the devil, but just people like anyone you'd find in any other country of the world.

    In some cases he was floored by their open hospitality.

    There was a scene near the end with guys doing burnouts and just hanging out drinking beer with their cars. Could easily have been a something happening in AnyCity, USA.

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    Re: Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Anybody watch this last night?

    Food star Anthony Bourdain tells of a ‘different Iran’ than expected


    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/pers...-expected.html


    Not surprising, but also highly informative.

    Beer drinking, pizza eating, American muscle car loving, family oriented people just trying to live their lives to the best of their abilities.

    Also - NOT hating America, although not forgetting that America supported Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war which included Iraq using some pretty hideous weapons on the Iranians.

    I especially liked the one scene where Anthony was having a HUGE formal lunch with a family and the father specifically stated "we are not the axis of evil".

    So I'm wondering what your thoughts are regarding the show.
    I have had a lot of Persian friends and try to catch a Persian meal, whenever I can. The ones I have known were wonderful people, creative and reliable. I really enjoy them.

    That does not mean that Iran is not dangerous and as close to a pure enemy as you can ever hope to find.

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    Re: Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    I have always liked AB's shows. He came to Ann Arbor a couple of years ago and we bought tickets and he is fascinating storyteller giving you two hours and more than our money worth. Having said that I saw the promo for his Iran show last night and did not watch it for one simple reason - never expect to go there and did not have any interest in the place at all. I have no doubt EB did a good job as usual.
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    Re: Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That does not mean that Iran is not dangerous and as close to a pure enemy as you can ever hope to find.
    In terms of countries that have invaded other countries over the last 100 years (think modern military weapons) who's been a larger threat to the planet's inhabitants?

    The USofA does a spectacular job of fearmongering when it comes to "The Axis Of Evil".

    We need a boogieman to keep fear alive and politicians in office. Iran and North Korea fit that bill pretty nicely.

    The Iranian people in general, the average Iranian, are not the ones to be feared.

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    Re: Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    never expect to go there and did not have any interest in the place at all
    A guy in the show stated something very intelligently.

    The places and people we fear the most, or typically the places and people we know the least about.

    To eradicate that fear, we must strive to get to know more about the places and the people.


    Pretty much Iran in a nutshell.

    It's a simple TV show. You should watch it.

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    Re: Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    A guy in the show stated something very intelligently.

    The places and people we fear the most, or typically the places and people we know the least about.

    To eradicate that fear, we must strive to get to know more about the places and the people.


    Pretty much Iran in a nutshell.

    It's a simple TV show. You should watch it.
    Thanks for the recommendation. Perhaps I will give it a try later today.
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    Re: Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    In terms of countries that have invaded other countries over the last 100 years (think modern military weapons) who's been a larger threat to the planet's inhabitants?

    The USofA does a spectacular job of fearmongering when it comes to "The Axis Of Evil".

    We need a boogieman to keep fear alive and politicians in office. Iran and North Korea fit that bill pretty nicely.

    The Iranian people in general, the average Iranian, are not the ones to be feared.
    The sheriff is always a threat. That is what she is about.

    You are preaching to the believer. But while it is better to have at least a sheriff, it is better if she is collectively elected and paid for. At present that is not the case in the international realm. We should be trying to establish such a system, but the resistance is severe. It is one of the main reasons, why China and Russia are systematically against protecting populations, when the local dictators shoot at the demonstrators.

    But as long as the international community is not willing or able to maintain the safety of people around the world and security is thus the mandate of nation states, it is better to blow away anything that looks dangerous, before it grows. It is a stupid way of doing it, but the only one that works in a factually lawless environment, which is what the international sphere largely is.

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    Re: Anthony Bourdain - Iran

    Didnt see it but from the remarks posted, Im not surprised. Ive spent 7 trips to the ME and worked with people from all around the region. Ive worked with lots of Iranians...most of them expatriots that were Muslim but not fundiMuslim. Lots in Abu Dhabi and Dubai. They are pretty savvy. They understood then the need to take out Saddam, understood the worlds upset with their own leadership. Recounted great stories of Iranian life before the ouster of the Shah and the return of the Ayatollah and a return to fundamentalism. The actually applauded the US activity in the first Gulf War as a means of correcting 'Brother Saddam'. They didnt hate America but were quick to point out the didnt love our government. I also told them in that they had common ground with most of our citizens.

    Its not just Iran. Most non-fundamentalist Muslims are good, decent, family driven people. I almost said 'hard working' but thats not the truth. Many (I would say even a majority) are born with an entitlement mentality that is fed by their culture. There is a reason why they bring in so many 3rd country nationals...to do the dirty work they believe is beneath them. For many, it is more honorable for the government and the Red Crescent Society to take care of them then for them to dig a ditch (or defend their country). Thats what true peasants are for.

    I enjoyed every country I went to in the ME. Regardless of what else was going on, I got to get into the cities and meet and work with people. I would go back tomorrow (I did NOT go hang out in fundamentalist countries). I'm sure Bourains experiences are real. Most Middle Eastern countries are complex. That DOES NOT discount the very real fact that the government of Iran presides over human rights abuses. 4 dozen journalists are in prison for speaking out. Women are still executed for daring to defend themselves agaisnt male attackers, even when some of the women are teens and they are defending themselves against 40 year old men. Its still punishable by death to be openly gay in Iran. Even where some disagree with those practices, the remain silent. Its almost like a sacrifice to the Gods, except it is a a sacrifice to the angry fundamentalist clergy and country leadership and helps keep a purging bloodlust sated.

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